Oh dear ITV

[Rogue]

Thats an agument for having phone-ins, not for having bent phone-ins.

Sure. But if this causes enough furore they might stop them altogether or they might have to show the chances of winning on screen like with ITV Play. This caused a massive drop in revenue.

We may have to live with even worse TV programs then we already have because of this.

If a few idiots in [insert place of ridicule] now think they've getting ripped off we may all have to suffer in terms of whats on our TV's.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

You mean we might have fewer phone-in quiz shows?

It'll be like the burning of the library at Alexandria.

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

I do find it amusing that Grade skipped out on the Beeb only to land it a gigantic pile of shit.

 

[Rogue]

I do find it amusing that Grade skipped out on the Beeb only to land it a gigantic pile of shit.

I'm sure his wallet couldn't give a monkeys

 

[Idaho]

Is it just me that always thought it was a badly kept secret that this happened anyway?

I'm sure lots of people always 'knew' it was a fix. And I am sure of those people perhaps 1% really did know.

 

[Melinda]

BBC announcing GMTV to face Serious Fraud Office Inquiry. Michael Grade and ITV are surely only weeks away.

The Serious Fraud Office (SFO) has said it will review evidence connected to the GMTV phone-in scandal to decide if a criminal investigation should begin.
Its inquiry comes three weeks after ITV1's breakfast broadcaster was fined £2 million by regulator Ofcom for failings over its phone-in quizzes.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7052948.stm

 

[marty21]

most of the big channels have done this, bbc have been caught, itv, gmtv ,there seems to be a whole load of wrong uns working in tv land, spivs after easy pickings

 

[ChrisFilter]

I do find it amusing that Grade skipped out on the Beeb only to land it a gigantic pile of shit.

Not really... couldn't have got much worse at ITV. Easy opportunity to make a bucketload of cash by turning it around. He's doing well, so far.

 

[Melinda]

Not really... couldn't have got much worse at ITV. Easy opportunity to make a bucketload of cash by turning it around. He's doing well, so far.

They defrauded and duped people out of £8 million, hopefully the fine should be many times that. We can but hope.

 

[PacificOcean]

They defrauded and duped people out of £8 million, hopefully the fine should be many times that. We can but hope.

OFCOM can (read that as won't), but they can fine a TV company 10% of it's earnings for serious breaches of their code.

In theory, this means OFCOM could fine ITV £70m.

 

[PacificOcean]

Was Michael Grade even at ITV when all this happened?

PO - aren't you just bitter c'so you were stupid enough to take part?!

Is it just me that always thought it was a badly kept secret that this happened anyway?

Yes, I rang Quizmanina

I was young - very, very drunk and needed the money.

 

[PacificOcean]

Sure. But if this causes enough furore they might stop them altogether or they might have to show the chances of winning on screen like with ITV Play. This caused a massive drop in revenue.

We may have to live with even worse TV programs then we already have because of this.

If a few idiots in [insert place of ridicule] now think they've getting ripped off we may all have to suffer in terms of whats on our TV's.

Without sounding rude - rubbish.

ITV made some of it's best programing before the use of phone-ins.

Band of Gold, Prime Suspect, Upstairs Downstairs, etc.

In fact, what has ITV made of note since all this phone in rubbish?

 

[Rogue]

Without sounding rude - rubbish.

ITV made some of it's best programing before the use of phone-ins.

Band of Gold, Prime Suspect, Upstairs Downstairs, etc.

In fact, what has ITV made of note since all this phone in rubbish?

Weren't all those programs made when advertising was booming and could do no wrong?

Advertising revenue is going down hill at the moment for most networks

 

[PacificOcean]

Weren't all those programs made when advertising was booming and could do no wrong?

Advertising revenue is going down hill at the moment for most networks

Fair point.

But ITV still makes shed loads from Ads.

Corrie six nights a week? Hurrah!

 

[Rogue]

Fair point.

But ITV still makes shed loads from Ads.

Corrie six nights a week? Hurrah!

It still makes loads sure. But clearly not enough. You read all the time ad revenue is dropping. Channel 4 for instance relies on its digital arm to keep revenues up.

I know it's hard to stomach but to a certain extent the phone ins are an important source of revenue of tv channels

 

[PacificOcean]

I know it's hard to stomach but to a certain extent the phone ins are an important source of revenue of tv channels

Well, I think the past tense is appropriate here.

Does this mean we will have "teleshopping" on ITV?

 

[ChrisFilter]

They defrauded and duped people out of £8 million, hopefully the fine should be many times that. We can but hope.

I was talking about Mr Grade making money, not ITV or the scams.

 

[Rogue]

Well, I think the past tense is appropriate here.

Does this mean we will have "teleshopping" on ITV?

Yeah something like that I guess. Or have ITV 7 8 9 10 etc. They could also make their website better I suppose. Or fire people. Or just make more Corrie

 

[PacificOcean]

Or just make more Corrie

"It just coming up to 4am here at ITV, let's take our seventh trip of the night down to The Street"

 

[Rogue]

"This evening all the cast and viewing public will be silting their wrists"

 

[Melinda]

I was talking about Mr Grade making money, not ITV or the scams.

But a man's reputation is important too? Even if he did jump ship from the BBC to make a sack load of cash and and even if most of the fraud was commited before he was a part of the organisation- he is now tarnished with ITV stink. Especially now he is having to look stupid defending this fraud.

Michael Grade stuttering through an explanation of how Deloitte's auditors have 'found no criminal intent' could not be less credible. All told I bet he'd rather have Mark Thompson's problems.

 

[nino_savatte]

How long do we give Make Your Play? 8 months? A year?

Shitterball's already bitten the dust.

 

[ChrisFilter]

But a man's reputation is important too? Even if he did jump ship from the BBC to make a sack load of cash and and even if most of the fraud was commited before he was a part of the organisation- he is now tarnished with ITV stink. Especially now he is having to look stupid defending this fraud.

Michael Grade stuttering through an explanation of how Deloitte's auditors have 'found no criminal intent' could not be less credible. All told I bet he'd rather have Mark Thompson's problems.

Na, bollocks. He's already said that if he'd been the man in charge when all this went on that he'd resign. It's not hard for him to shrug this off as another symptom of the ITV old guard and now he's the white knight who's come to save everything.

Michael Grade can only do well out of this. Though this is of course not the case for ITV.

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

Its true.. and this may well give him the chance to do the hatchet job ITV needs. Mark Thompson was described on radio 4's news quiz today as 'looking like a travelling pubic hair salesman' which I found amusing..

 

[Melinda]

ITV manoeuvre clumsily to get Ant and Dec out of the firing line.

Hmmm vanity credits...!

ITV boss Michael Grade has described the executive producer status of Ant and Dec on a Saturday evening show as merely "a vanity credit".
So what does the job title mean?
A show fronted by Ant McPartlin and Declan Donnelly is among those implicated in the ITV phone-in investigation.

Saturday Night Takeaway was one of several named for rigging competition winners in an audit ordered by the channel.

The pair, who not only present the show but are credited as "executive producers", have said they had "no idea" problems existed and they had been "disappointed to discover that these irregularities have occurred". The channel's chairman has called their production role "kind of a vanity credit".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7052368.stm