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Off the bollockometer - bad movies that you love

I remember years ago watching Jean Claude van Damme's Hard Target in a French cinema with a friend, and were creased up laughing at the improbability of the chase scene where he stands up on the motorbike that's going up over a bridge or something, turns round, so he's standing up and facing backwards, and he shoots at the bad guys. As if! Brilliant stuff. So bad it was good. :D
 
...if you think something is good, why would you say it was bad?
Perhaps because I recognise that the acting is more wooden than my dining room table, the dialogue is cheesy and delivered badly, the plot - such that there is of it - is ludicrously improbable, perhaps there are laughably cheap sets or special effects, there might be continuity errors or other inconsistencies, so overall you appreciate that the technical and other merits of the film are poor, i.e. it's bad, but nevertheless you found it entertaining and enjoyable in some way.

Hence, it's so bad that it's good.

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And what about Bruce Willis' Die Hard movies? Arnie and the Terminator movies? And the disaster movie genre generally? Towering Inferno, Poseidon Adventure, Deep Impact, Dante's Peak (or am I thinking of the other volcano film? :hmm: or both?)

All so formulaic, riddled with cliches, wooden acting from hero/heroine (scientist or intrepid journalist or world weary cop who superiors see as black sheep of the department), improbable scenarios, plus any or all of the following: pregnant woman going into labour, blonde squealing silly bitch, small children who go to retrieve toy/pet dog and hence end up in mortal danger, black dude sidekick and best friend to hero/heroine who gets killed, black dude criminal/prisoner who escapes amid prison transfer van crash and saves small child or elderly person and thus redeems himself and turns hero, pompous and/or fat obnxious American businessman usually dressed in plaid pants. And don't forget the nun.

So bad that they're good. Fact.
 
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I know it's wrong, but I thought it was great.
 
But 99% of the the audience won't know it's a parody. So they end up rooting for the fascists.

I also think it's good but you're the only person I've come across who agrees so I've been pressured into filing it as bad for years. I'm confused now.

If Michael Bay movies are bad, how about Transformers? That's just brilliant.

I think you've really underestimated most people who have seen that film. Everyone I know "got it", and most people think it's a good film.

Starship Troupers 2 on the other hand... :D (and that's not my "so bad it's good" vote - I could hardly watch 20 minutes of it).

Transformers however - I think you might have a point.
 
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