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Obama: History's Verdict?

Sas, yesterday:

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Harsh. Martok once got his leadership challenged by a subordinate who was willing to let Martok kill him in order to show The General the error of his ways and how his actions went against the ethical principles of their society. This lead to a fight almost to the death. Martok realised the error of his ways. After he realised the value and courage of his subordinates actions he welcomed him into his family. I'm pretty sure Sas would of chucked him out of an airlock.
 
Harsh. Martok once got his leadership challenged by a subordinate who was willing to let Martok kill him in order to show The General the error of his ways and how his actions went against the ethical principles of their society. This lead to a fight almost to the death. Martok realised the error of his ways. After he realised the value and courage of his subordinates actions he welcomed him into his family. I'm pretty sure Sas would of chucked him out of an airlock.
Son, have you ever kissed a girl?
 
Manning disclosed way way too much stuff and wikkileaks fucked her.

Lot of that stuff wasn't about warcrimes
 
I have a feeiing that history eg people writing about him post 2100 say will view Obama in a generally favourable light, Trump however will keep historians and fiction writers alike in material for centuries if not milliennia
 
It's quite alright, I don't expect you to understand the concept.


Its's quite alright. I don't expect you to even begin to understand the concepts of honour, duty and decency.

It took you two whole years to come up with that?

Meh.

ETA: 3 whole years, actually
 
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This a nuclear shock

He has offered his thoughts

 
I have a feeiing that history eg people writing about him post 2100 say will view Obama in a generally favourable light, Trump however will keep historians and fiction writers alike in material for centuries if not milliennia
I won’t: while charismatic,
1. His lack of transformative politics paved the way for Trump
2. His tenure completed the mutation of the Democrats into the party of Wall St (see 1)
3. He ordered more extrajudicial murders than any other US President
 
As a commentator pointed out today, apart from the deflection bullshit, the orange menace seems to have forgotten that his packed SC gave immunity to presidents for things done in office. So even if there was something to answer, which there isn't, the stupid twat seems to think the immunity only relates to himself.
 
I won’t: while charismatic,
1. His lack of transformative politics paved the way for Trump
2. His tenure completed the mutation of the Democrats into the party of Wall St (see 1)
3. He ordered more extrajudicial murders than any other US President
:rolleyes:

1 right, trump is a democratic president's fault, not the fault of, for example, the GOP establishment. because the job of a president of the US is to be "transformative", especially one who was a complete product of the chicago democratic machine, not to manage the state more or less in accord with capital. but I've heard this before, when Astronomical Actuary educated me that biden's job was to introduce full communism, at which he failed.

2 that was clinton.

3 maybe, i don't keep count. but I'll bet trump will give him a run.
 
I had totally forgotten I started this thread.

The Trump allegations are not even a ball of smoke, but they should keep the Top Trumps Moron Army happy for a bit anyway, until the clamour for raw red Epstein Files meat grows unignorable again.

That sums up my verdict on BHO - imperialist running dog though he was, he was also the last normal American president. There won't be another.

(and on the credit side, BHO was also the only politician I've ever heard of who tried to do something about rape in male prisons).
 
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