Oasis: cra/not
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ooohh teddy teddy.futha said:well i was 8 in 1994 but i remember going to my guitar teacher once and saying the only thing i wanted to be able to play was the slide from the start of stand by me. if it wasnt for Noel Gallagher i doubt i would have bothered to learn guitar as he was my hero and the only two people in the world i wanted to be were him and Teddy Sheringham. for that reason i vote most definately not crap. plus songs like supersonic, married with children and talk tonight help swing the vote
Dubversion said:
I utterly concur. I dont like all of Blur's stuff. But at least they tried different things. I mean compare "There's No Other Way" to the moddish stuff on Modern Life is Rubbish, and that to gospelly stuff like "Tender".
just listened to morning glory. ace start, gets turgid. turned off youtube. listened to parklife: tuigid, a few "nice" "ideas" that you can find in any object.
in conclusion: yep. pretty good in places, and the shit it did must mean it was pretty damn good in places. imo, fwiw.
in conclusion: yep. pretty good in places, and the shit it did must mean it was pretty damn good in places. imo, fwiw.
N_igma said:
So we're only allowed to dislike stuff which we could make ourselves? Hmm... always a dodgy line of defending something, that one. Could be used for just about anything. I mean I doubt many people on here could make 'The Phantom Menace' but doesn't mean they can't say it was crap.
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118118 said:
so you subscribe to the pushpin is no better than pushkin theory? that there is no difference between high art and low art whatsoever? that the teletubbies theme is the absolute equivalent and just as important as the goldberg variations and that shakespeare is no more or less important than richard littlejohn in the literary world?
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Kanda said:Bollocks
not at all bollocks
there's nothing wrong with liking rubbish bands. i like pearl jam FFS. and it might be a time and place thing, i can't imagine loving vs or ten if i heard them tomorrow, but nevertheless everything i said about oasis is true. musically and lyrically they're really not very clever. now, they're the sort of not very clever that i've always hated, but if you like them fair dos, just don't try and convince me that their lyrics were meaningful and their compositions were complex.
well i would like to think that good art is good art is good art can be distinguished without such notions. i think music that i would not listen to can be put to one side without ideas about style; tho i'm not ready yet.
'importantce' to people other than me is something else tho. littlejohn doesn't mean much to me tbh.
i must admit i still like to play with the idea of style. but it's just a device ime. it's not worth much.
i've only read 10 pages of music theory/etc.. so i'd like to have the conversation again later.
'importantce' to people other than me is something else tho. littlejohn doesn't mean much to me tbh.
i must admit i still like to play with the idea of style. but it's just a device ime. it's not worth much.
i've only read 10 pages of music theory/etc.. so i'd like to have the conversation again later.
bluestreak said:not at all bollocks
there's nothing wrong with liking rubbish bands. i like pearl jam FFS. and it might be a time and place thing, i can't imagine loving vs or ten if i heard them tomorrow, but nevertheless everything i said about oasis is true. musically and lyrically they're really not very clever. now, they're the sort of not very clever that i've always hated, but if you like them fair dos, just don't try and convince me that their lyrics were meaningful and their compositions were complex.
whats being complex got to do with anything? were the ramones complex?
Lamest band ever.yeah but if you and all your mates love pot noodles. and loads of other groups of mates too. and when you eat put noodles is pretty much the only good point in your otherwise miserable life - or so you think. but they also sum up the shittiness of your life: maybe some people even did something about it, who knows. if this is the case, and you look back in 8-9 years, and that was the most significant point in your life, the times your life was shit and you used to eat pot noodles. and you still like pot noodles. and so do loads of other people, and they have similar experiences to you.firky said:
are you seriously going to say that there is nothing spesh about pot noodles?
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RenegadeDog said:
Not at all. I just used those two examples because from an objective viewpoint you can say they're pretty decent tunes. I'm just saying you can't fault Oasis for writing tunes that a lot of people like and sing along to, regardless if it's generic tripe. And it doesn't make anyone less intelligent if they like Oasis, Blur on the other hand.
rather than orangutan. who was too good looking for them both.
anyway. i concur. no-one's said they are technically or lyrically complicated. thank god that that doesn't mean anything to the experience of listening to music. and, i've banged this drum before: pop musicians = scum, so why care if their stuff took technical skill that doesn't actually appear in the song. you're celebrating the talents of charlatans. you can't buy a song, y see.
anyway. i concur. no-one's said they are technically or lyrically complicated. thank god that that doesn't mean anything to the experience of listening to music. and, i've banged this drum before: pop musicians = scum, so why care if their stuff took technical skill that doesn't actually appear in the song. you're celebrating the talents of charlatans. you can't buy a song, y see.
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