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All those would have been very unlikely before the crash, but if prices have dropped 20% you should be fine I reckon.

no, all those are viable and places where we're looking - I'd like to know of any others that people think we should be looking at that meet the criteria.
 
I used to go out at night more in the west end when i lived further away. When you live in the suburbs (like, zone 5), central london is appealing. Since moving to within easy reach of brixton etc, i never really go much further than that if it's going to be a late one. I am lazy.

anyway, let's be constructive. tecuchter and anyone else - your challenge is: an area easy reach of brixton (one bus plus a bit of a walk at most), plus public transport commute into Borough area. no further out than the zone 2/3 borders. Properties commonly available in the manner of 2+ bedrooms, ground floor with private garden and not on a red route or anything silly (i need to park my car somewhere) £210,000 max asking price (without need for much doing to it).

We reckon we've got: Nunhead, Peck'nam, Tulse Hill, West Dulwich, possibly Crystal Palace, the Tulse hill end of West Norwood.

Strikeout streatham - we're not interested. Apart from anything else, Kanda lives there!:D

Loughborough Junction ftw.

http://www.homes24.co.uk/doc.html?_a=view&id=823998
 
does fit all the criteria - but we've discounted it because it feels a bit grim, some of it. but i forgot camberwell... we're looking at camberwell too.

It's not as grim as it appears, especially some of the back streets set just back from Coldharbour Lane (that link is actually in the low-rise bit of the Loughborough Estate in fact, didn't notice that initially).

We've been here for 8 years, had our kids here, it's a very very kid-tastic area, loads of people doing the same - it's a great community feel, better than I've had anywhere else. I can let my kids run free in Ruskin Park knowing that every third adult there will know them by sight and name and vice versa. Decent schools, too, and really near town.

Don't knock it as an area to settle in - have a look.
 
It isn't. Anyhow Streatham FTW!

Last train home is brilliant for eavesdropping...man the conversations i;ve heard I could ruin careers and relationships :D :D
 
It isn't. Anyhow Streatham FTW!

Last train home is brilliant for eavesdropping...man the conversations i;ve heard I could ruin careers and relationships :D :D

Most last trains are horrible, aren't they. Puke wagons. The last train to Norwood Junction is a stopping one, which takes 20 mins. I hate it. I always try and get the last direct train, which is always empty :cool:
 
First question - got a few mates within 20 mins, most within 30 mins.

Second question - yeah, I imagine they do feel it's an effort.

These would matter to me if I was single, but I'm not.

Oh, and re: times, London Bridge is 12 min train ride away. Admittedly I'm 3 mins from the station, so I should revise it to 15 mins.

Yeah but how often are the trains? You need to divide the time interval by two to get a realistic average time. And as already mentioned, it only gets you to London Bridge whereas if you're in Brixton you have both branches of the Northern Line plus the Victoria line, and all of the zone 1/2 stations on those lines, within about half an hour of getting on the train.

It's a significant difference. To say you're 15 mins from central London is rather meaningless.

One argument is the 'last train' thing. Yeah, that would be a nightmare if a) I ever went out in the centre and/or b) I was single.

There you go - old and boring. If you weren't old and boring it wouldn't be much good to you.

anyway, let's be constructive. tecuchter and anyone else - your challenge is: an area easy reach of brixton (one bus plus a bit of a walk at most), plus public transport commute into Borough area. no further out than the zone 2/3 borders. Properties commonly available in the manner of 2+ bedrooms, ground floor with private garden and not on a red route or anything silly (i need to park my car somewhere) £210,000 max asking price (without need for much doing to it).

We reckon we've got: Nunhead, Peck'nam, Tulse Hill, West Dulwich, possibly Crystal Palace, the Tulse hill end of West Norwood.

Strikeout streatham - we're not interested. Apart from anything else, Kanda lives there!:D

Out of those choices I'd go for Streatham. And I don't really like Streatham. Next choice Tulse Hill. At least you're still fairly handy for Brockwell park which is a big plus in my books.
 
(loving the ChrisFilter/teuchter bunfight - it's so civilised)

I reckon Tulse Hill would be good option as close to Brixton, friends, tube station, Brockwell Park. Food shopping isn't the best - but Brixton/ Streatham/West Norwood isn't too far away.
 
(loving the ChrisFilter/teuchter bunfight - it's so civilised)

I reckon Tulse Hill would be good option as close to Brixton, friends, tube station, Brockwell Park. Food shopping isn't the best - but Brixton/ Streatham/West Norwood isn't too far away.

I loved living in Tulse Hill. Would have bought there, were we able to afford it.
 
it isn't as simple as picking one location, though. if we look in all those places we may only find one or two contenders. there isn't a great deal of stock on the market, really.
 
Yeah but how often are the trains? You need to divide the time interval by two to get a realistic average time. And as already mentioned, it only gets you to London Bridge whereas if you're in Brixton you have both branches of the Northern Line plus the Victoria line, and all of the zone 1/2 stations on those lines, within about half an hour of getting on the train.

It's a significant difference. To say you're 15 mins from central London is rather meaningless.

Not really. I lived in Brixton for years, and honestly, it feels more of a hassle to get there from work than it does it get home now. If I get the right train from City Thameslink, I can go from work to home, door to door, in less than 35 mins. Also, I rarely have to get the tube which is a massive bonus in terms of sanity, and expense.

It doesn't matter how often the trains are (there's 3 within 15 mins after 8am) because you adjust your journeys to the timetable.


There you go - old and boring. If you weren't old and boring it wouldn't be much good to you.

Ha, boring maybe, but I'm 27. Who really goes out in the centre... and why? Unless it's clubbing or to a free party, then why would anyone in their right mind choose to go out in zone 1?

I go out in Brixton, Peckham, Crystal Palace, etc. And more commonly than that, to house parties.
 
Not really. I lived in Brixton for years, and honestly, it feels more of a hassle to get there from work than it does it get home now. If I get the right train from City Thameslink, I can go from work to home, door to door, in less than 35 mins. Also, I rarely have to get the tube which is a massive bonus in terms of sanity, and expense.

It doesn't matter how often the trains are (there's 3 within 15 mins after 8am) because you adjust your journeys to the timetable.

Obviously it depends on the particulars of where you work etc. I get to work in 30mins door-door. If I was to change jobs, there would be a good chance my journey time wouldn't increase too much, whereas for you it could make a massive difference.


Ha, boring maybe, but I'm 27. Who really goes out in the centre... and why? Unless it's clubbing or to a free party, then why would anyone in their right mind choose to go out in zone 1?

Clubbing or parties - not very often in Zone 1, but now again in Zone 2 or 3 on the other side of the centre.

I will often meet friends from North London at a pub / restaurant, in Zone 1 because it's handy for everyone, or near my work, or near their work. And then there are exhibitions and museums and concerts and the like.

The kind of shopping you can't do locally.

Getting to work meetings in random locations around central London first thing in the morning. Being able to get up as late as possible is important to me.

And when I am going out of London I can get to any of the main terminii relatively easy and quickly. If I arrive back in London at 11 on a Sunday evening at Euston or Paddington I can get back home relatively quickly. For me, the difference between getting home on one or two tubes in 45 mins or so, and a sequence of tube/bus/train that might take more than twice as long, in those kinds of situations, is important.
 
Obviously it depends on the particulars of where you work etc. I get to work in 30mins door-door. If I was to change jobs, there would be a good chance my journey time wouldn't increase too much, whereas for you it could make a massive difference.




Clubbing or parties - not very often in Zone 1, but now again in Zone 2 or 3 on the other side of the centre.

I will often meet friends from North London at a pub / restaurant, in Zone 1 because it's handy for everyone, or near my work, or near their work. And then there are exhibitions and museums and concerts and the like.

The kind of shopping you can't do locally.

Getting to work meetings in random locations around central London first thing in the morning. Being able to get up as late as possible is important to me.

And when I am going out of London I can get to any of the main terminii relatively easy and quickly. If I arrive back in London at 11 on a Sunday evening at Euston or Paddington I can get back home relatively quickly. For me, the difference between getting home on one or two tubes in 45 mins or so, and a sequence of tube/bus/train that might take more than twice as long, in those kinds of situations, is important.

All valid points in their own right, but my point is that paying £100k less for a house, or getting a far nicer house for the same money, is more important to me than how quickly I can get home from a part of town I rarely frequent.
 
Desirable for who? Does that mean you can't afford to live somewhere more expensive? Doesn't necessarily mean it won't be more desirable for you iyswim. I'd have a look in New Cross Gate, up telegraph hill way and brockley too. Nice areas - know lots of people with young kids round there.

Ditto - in fact in my department at work all the other women live in the 3 areas you described (apart from one who is bang smack in the middle of East Dulwich..) and they all have babies/are pregnant.
 
All valid points in their own right, but my point is that paying £100k less for a house, or getting a far nicer house for the same money, is more important to me than how quickly I can get home from a part of town I rarely frequent.

Sure. I have no objection to you making that choice. Different people have different priorities.
 
I've been there! Can be, er, changeable. Some great acts and some not so great :p
I don't think that's entirely fair. The overall standard is very, very high, far higher than most open mike nights. But it's not somewhere you'd go if you want your music polished and professional, it's the sort of place musicians go to try out new material, or just to have a go.

I went tonight and saw some incredible acts, a couple of mediocre ones and two total beginners, but I wasn't subjected to the usual terrible crap you get at open mike nights, and the good bits were sublime. Usually, even if the acts aren't that great they're at least interesting/charming/funny.
 
I don't think that's entirely fair. The overall standard is very, very high, far higher than most open mike nights. But it's not somewhere you'd go if you want your music polished and professional, it's the sort of place musicians go to try out new material, or just to have a go.

I went tonight and saw some incredible acts, a couple of mediocre ones and two total beginners, but I wasn't subjected to the usual terrible crap you get at open mike nights, and the good bits were sublime. Usually, even if the acts aren't that great they're at least interesting/charming/funny.

I think you've said what I was trying to say, but you communicated it much better :)
 
for sure? he did buy the leasehold and was living above it last I heard....you in touch with the loveable old hobo? hows he keeping:hmm:

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but Spangle just told me about the Dick mention. He does own it but is mainly living back in Ireland. Last I heard from him was an answerphone message saying he was turning it into an Italian restaurant. I drove past the other day and saw that this was the case. I lost his number due to a phone mishap though so annoyingly can't contact him.
 
apparently they're selling up at the old nun's head... just not enough middle class clientele there to make it pay. goes on the market in january.
 
apparently they're selling up at the old nun's head... just not enough middle class clientele there to make it pay. goes on the market in january.

Interesting.
One of my mates lives 50m down the road from it so I know it quite well & I always have said that something just didn't click there after the re furb.
The owner's the same guy who owns the The Gowlett, which is a successful & pleasant modern neighbourhood pub with a warm atmosphere - The Old Nun's Head has never managed to capture that - always feels cold & a bit lonesome in there - can't put my finger on it, but something about it's just not worked.
 
can't put my finger on it, but something about it's just not worked.

probably johnny gowlett's coke problem... he moved over from the gowlett to the nuns head taking a lot of his fave staff with him. unfortunately they were/are all quite problematic coke fiends.

that plus the fact that the nuns doesnt have any cosy corners, and its too light in there.
 
probably johnny gowlett's coke problem

Tbh, Everything else in the area pales into insignificance on that front after the old bar crew from Magdala on Lship lane, ED :D


the fact that the nuns doesnt have any cosy corners, and its too light in there.

Yep, for sure.
All that lovely wood & still not a hint of coziness - even when they have a fire going. That takes quite an effort!
 
apparently they're selling up at the old nun's head... just not enough middle class clientele there to make it pay. goes on the market in january.

Is anyone really surprised?

I mean Estate Agents were trying to do a good job of ramping areas like Nunhead & the like by saying "There's plenty of Period Houses here and a Fishmongers, it's up & coming you know, 400K for a 2 bed terrace in this part of town is a bargain!"
 
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