Number 10 tells Sadiq Khan he is not invited to emergency coronavirus meeting

[littlebabyjesus]

ing aside...interesting that Khan feels motivated to lash out about his 'exclusion' from this meeting that may well have set in train the process that cancels the May 7th London Mayoral & GLA elections, along with all the other locals scheduled for that day.

He's bound to win isn't he? I would think he'd want the election to go ahead on time. Or is that what you mean?

 

[editor]

Just what is it that you think this self-serving shit-cunt politico would bring to the table if he were invited along to join all the other shit-cunts in the meeting?

No you're right. Let's just get the Surrey folks up.

 

[brogdale]

'Lash out'? The article just says, "City Hall sources"...

Fair point; I was 'typing' without properly focusing. Should have said respond or some such.
Postponing the elections could be quite a biggie.

 

[brogdale]

He's bound to win isn't he? I would think he'd want the election to go ahead on time. Or is that what you mean?

I was supposing that he'd want to be there if the possibility was being considered/ prepared for.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Heard on grapevine that they wouldn't let khan come so that they didn't have to let big joe anderson and andy 'the burn' burnham in

 

[brogdale]

Heard on grapevine that they wouldn't let khan come so that they didn't have to let big joe anderson and andy 'the burn' burnham in

They thought they'd blurt out the stuff about the body bags?

 

[Treacle Toes]

8.9 million people.
860,000 commuters by rail daily.
400,000 tube commuters daily.
8000 buses, 700 bus routes.
How many train terminals?
How many people arriving and leaving the country via London serving airports daily?

I think context is important here regardless of what anyone thinks of Sadiq. It'll be his fault anyway.

 

[cupid_stunt]

As one of the 87% of people that live outside London, I would just like to point out the 13% are not special, so fuck Khan.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I've read today that Matt creepy Hancock was barred also...

Where did you read this?

Please don't say twitter or facebook.

Still waiting.

 

[Treacle Toes]

It's not about being 'special', it's about density, daily contact with other people, the sheer volume of movement in and out of here.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Still waiting.

Fuck off with your snark.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Fuck off with your snark.

Is that an admission that you posted bollocks?

 

[Treacle Toes]

Is that an admission that you posted bollocks?

No it's telling you to fuck off because your snark is completely unnecessary and it'll be a cold day in hell before I put up with that shit from you. Now off you fuck.

 

[cupid_stunt]

No it's telling you to fuck off because your snark is completely unnecessary and it'll be a cold day in hell before I put up with that shit from you. Now off you fuck.

Admission accepted.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I'm not trying to get involved in any snarkiness, but modern day UK is fluid everywhere, nowhere is insulated, movement in and out of everywhere domestically and internationally. Don't understand why london is any different, I don't think it's even the part of the UK with the highest volume of confirmed cases per 100k (although that's probably quite meaningless at this stage anyway).

I mean fuck tories and the govt but let's be honest it's a bit of a stunt from khan isn't it

 

[two sheds]

It's not about being 'special', it's about density, daily contact with other people, the sheer volume of movement in and out of here.

The story I read said that some scary thousands of people are coming back from Italy to London (or presumably through London) around now.

 

[belboid]

Surrey has had twice the number of confirmed cases as London, can we send two people to the meeting?

oh come on, you know better than this, surely? The problem isn't the tiny number of current cases, it's the risk of a much larger spreading of the disease to wider communities. As such, both major international airports and public transport are especially important. And when one of them is ludicrously overcrowded, so that if you sneeze you're almost obliged to do it into someone else's elbow, the dangers should be pretty obvious, and the elected official with most up to date knowledge is more important than any other city mayor.

 

[andysays]

I'm not surprised that Khan wasn't invited.

The one COBRA meeting he attended doesn't set a precedent and mean that he's going to be invited to every one in future. They are basically meetings for members of the Cabinet after all.

I'm sure Khan, along with other Mayors and various others responsible for administration in parts of the UK will be informed soon what role the government expects them to take as part of the overall plan to tackle the virus, which is all that could realistically be expected.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Honestly though I think sometimes people in london think the rest of the UK lives in thatched hovels and come out and clap when a horse drawn carriage comes past every quarter. Every city and large town is overcrowded to fuck, there are dozens of international airports, people are moving in and out of everywhere constantly and in volume. Come on now.

 

[andysays]

Honestly though I think sometimes people in london think the rest of the UK lives in thatched hovels and come out and clap when a horse drawn carriage comes past every quarter. Every city and large town is overcrowded to fuck, there are dozens of international airports, people are moving in and out of everywhere constantly and in volume. Come on now.

#notallLondoners

 

[belboid]

Honestly though I think sometimes people in london think the rest of the UK lives in thatched hovels and come out and clap when a horse drawn carriage comes past every quarter. Every city and large town is overcrowded to fuck, there are dozens of international airports, people are moving in and out of everywhere constantly and in volume. Come on now.

In absolutely nothing like the same numbers. Only Manchester airport is remotely comparable (a third the numbers of Heathrow, about a sixth of all london airports). Those going in and out of London are also travelling around the country far more than those arriving at regional airports And, while that may well indeed be all a part of general southern bias, it does also have a bigger effect upon the rest of the country. Pretending Manchester, Sheffield or Newport is as important as London, in this particular sense, is just daft.

 

[Treacle Toes]

The story I read said that some scary thousands of people are coming back from Italy to London (or presumably through London) around now.

Yeah, pretty sure the link to that story on the other thread.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I'm not trying to get involved in any snarkiness,...

Honestly though I think sometimes people in london think the rest of the UK lives in thatched hovels and come out and clap when a horse drawn carriage comes past every quarter.

I almost believed you.

 

[Lord Camomile]

 

[Treacle Toes]

In absolutely nothing like the same numbers. Only Manchester airport is remotely comparable (a third the numbers of Heathrow, about a sixth of all london airports). Those going in and out of London are also travelling around the country far more than those arriving at regional airports And, while that may well indeed be all a part of general southern bias, it does also have a bigger effect upon the rest of the country. Pretending Manchester, Sheffield or Newport is as important as London, in this particular sense, is just daft.

Add coach journeys to most part of the UK and coming in from Europe all day, everyday.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

oh come on, you know better than this, surely? The problem isn't the tiny number of current cases, it's the risk of a much larger spreading of the disease to wider communities. As such, both major international airports and public transport are especially important. And when one of them is ludicrously overcrowded, so that if you sneeze you're almost obliged to do it into someone else's elbow, the dangers should be pretty obvious, and the elected official with most up to date knowledge is more important than any other city mayor.

This meeting is to determine national policy. What is decided will be rolled out across the country, Khan will be told what is happening, as will the mayors of other cities and the burghers of Surrey. There was no need for him to attend, so he wasn’t invited. What is odd about that?

 

[belboid]

This meeting is to determine national policy. What is decided will be rolled out across the country, Khan will be told what is happening, as will the mayors of other cities and the burghers of Surrey. There was no need for him to attend, so he wasn’t invited. What is odd about that?

well, that's a rather different argument to the one you were offering before. The the answer is pretty similar tho, he's in charge of a fucking important part of it. Probably a larger part than most of the other attendee's at the meeting. Why bother letting the welsh, scots and nirish ring in? They were already covered too.

 

[MickiQ]

Whilst any opportunity to kick BoZo is mandatory, I can't imagine why he would invite Khan who whilst he may be the most senior local politician in the country is just that, a local politician. It's a bit suspect that Hancock wasn't there. Either way it's just a bunch of politicians in the room talking through their arses.
I would hope that any real planning would be done by people who might be qualified like doctors and scientists liasing with the appropriate people in the emergency services and the military if needed.
All BoZo and his clown club should be able to do is to say "carry on chaps, we have full confidence in you" Sadly I suspect they will stick their oar in and make things over-complicated.

 

[belboid]

Whilst any opportunity to kick BoZo is mandatory, I can't imagine why he would invite Khan who whilst he may be the most senior local politician in the country is just that, a local politician. It's a bit suspect that Hancock wasn't there. Either way it's just a bunch of politicians in the room talking through their arses.
I would hope that any real planning would be done by people who might be qualified like doctors and scientists liasing with the appropriate people in the emergency services and the military if needed.
All BoZo and his clown club should be able to do is to say "carry on chaps, we have full confidence in you" Sadly I suspect they will stick their oar in and make things over-complicated.

I don't want to hand the country over to the army, thanks. The principles of democratic oversight are important, even if those elected are fucking arseholes.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I almost believed you.

I don't think that was snarky, not in a snidey way anyway. And belboid did post straight after my first post, hence the second post.

Anyway, ok london is big, we all understand that. But this idea that london is international and fluid while the rest of the uk... isn't. Its annoying and its bollocks. There is absolutely no reason to think london is any more - or less - at risk than anywhere else.