Nuke Plant Exposed near Holy City of Quom!
- Thread starter Johnny Canuck3
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Iran's rulers probably aim for Iran to become the regional hegemon one day. That doesn't mean invading Israel or some other fantasy, more like when the Iraqi or Jordanian or Israeli governments decide on some major policy, their first question will be 'How will Iran react?'
Obtaining nuclear weapons is an obvious step towards that goal.
Obtaining nuclear weapons is an obvious step towards that goal.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
The 'Wow' gives the game away.
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
Are you implying that ba is not truly amazed that anything of worth could be salvaged from your screed?
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Er? What's a "screed?"
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
As my dad used to say, you know where the dictionary is.
Johnny Canuck3
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One question: why would they put this nuclear facility near a holy city? It's like having a reactor at the gates of the Vatican.
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
What's the distance in km between the two?
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Estimates from googled sources say, 35 km, some say 20 miles.
Maybe to deter American or Israeli attacks on it, especially if Qom tends to be downwind of the site.
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
It's to make the uranium ready to go into the reactors, isn't it?
I thought that technology was perfected.
I absolutely loathe the idea of more nuclear power stations, and I wonder if they had not sunk billions and billions already into this long-project, that they might choose renewables if they could start over again.
But they've got a huge amount invested in this, to walk away after the west advised and helped them to set it up would be nigh-on impossible without some serious financial assistance.
Idris2002
Stay Alive in '25
Do you like Woody Allen films, invisibleplanet?
There's a great scene in his spoof of War and Peace, 'Love and Death' where a Russian says to him, 'so, if you don't like the Tsar and you don't like Napoleon, who do you think should be running the country'.
Allen: 'The serfs - if you want anything done in Russia, ask a serf'.
There's a great scene in his spoof of War and Peace, 'Love and Death' where a Russian says to him, 'so, if you don't like the Tsar and you don't like Napoleon, who do you think should be running the country'.
Allen: 'The serfs - if you want anything done in Russia, ask a serf'.
Johnny Canuck3
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invisibleplanet
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Location might be more to do with geology than proximity, imo.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Maybe. Although given that Iran is three times the size of the UK, you'd think that there might be one or two suitable locations, that weren't in proximity to a holy city.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
It's an immense PR job if you ask me; oh first of all we have some "controversial" ratcheting up of public anti-semitism in a way he knows will wind up Israel and the US, then a public announcement of nuclear plants, which the US/etc claim they knew all about but weren't saying anything (and maybe that's true tbh). Just after a really unpopular election and during internal domestic problems for Ahmedinejad. Weird really.
Ibn Khaldoun
the present is dead, long live the future . . .
what's that supposed to say about their supposed fanatic religious motivation for everything...
same as the idea that they'd destroy jerusalem makes sooo much sense
subversplat
writer of wrongs
Well exactly, all it does is prove that "religion" to the upper echelons of power is just a tool to control the masses.what's that supposed to say about their supposed fanatic religious motivation for everything...
same as the idea that they'd destroy jerusalem makes sooo much sense
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Yes, it makes you wonder. Perhaps they are just cynical and conniving politicians, just like the kind we have. Does that make things any better, though?
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
All cities are holy to some extant, Johnny.
Most cities have a religious hub, some have several and some cities are devoted to being holy places and centres of religious and educational pilgramage.
Universities in Britain were begun by clerics.
Ibn Khaldoun
the present is dead, long live the future . . .
That's what I know they are!
The word for what Iran does is "simulated irrationality". Now is the season for hyping up the Iran threat. Since three years ago you can see how successful they've been with all this propaganda, including the western right's propaganda work for the Islamic Republic, and the nuclear programme. I realised it's a total red-herring way quick.
It means that instead of being mad cunts who wouldn't have lasted this long, they're just regular cunts with ambitions to be hegemonic cunts.
Johnny Canuck3
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mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
I hope there is the same level of international outrage when this evil Nuke plant is being built...
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
what's that supposed to say about their supposed fanatic religious motivation for everything...
same as the idea that they'd destroy jerusalem makes sooo much sense
Do you post on spittoon?
Ibn Khaldoun
the present is dead, long live the future . . .
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
What an amusing thread this has been. Starts off with a pointless debate about terminology (anyone with half a brain could have worked out that JC2 was referring to nuclear power rather than bombs), then the whole Qum/Qom/Quom rubbish, and then it gets bogged down into an Iran=Good, Isreal=Bad hole, with several posters refusing to accept something really obvious - the Iranian regime has it's own ambitions for the position of Iran both in the region and globally, and the nuclear plans (whatever they are) are a big part of that - as a signal to the region 'Look, we did it, you can do it too' for building nuke power stations and/or building a bomb to get on par with Israel and to say to the region 'Look, we've now got a bomb.'
Ibn Khaldoun
the present is dead, long live the future . . .
Iran's 'independent interests' in the programme don't include sending that signal to the region (of all things...) which is good reason why the programme probably won't result with them having the bomb the moment they can construct it.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
When you say 'independent interests' what are you referring to?
Ibn Khaldoun
the present is dead, long live the future . . .
paraphrasing the earlier version of your argument as it was put forward by others, but im lazy right now...
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
I know. I sort of lost my stomach for it all, when it got changed to 'Quom'. It was like being whacked in the side of the head when not expecting it.
Quom.
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