"nu-rave"

[Fruitloop]

the hate seems to be directed at the kids who like it, judging by the OP etc - that's just wank. Feel free to hate the music, but calling kids having fun "sheep" is a cunt's trick

I don't hate the adherents, I just think that they look very silly. They seem to affect a funny way of talking to go with the funny clothes, which is even more bizarre - you can imitate it by speaking whilst pretending that you have no muscles in your face.

To be fair, I hate pretty much the entire music industry, so these clowns are not exactly especially blessed by my derision.

 

[Blagsta]

Teenage fashions have always been silly. Isn't that the point of them?

 

[dwenfish]

i don't believe i've seen any examples of this phenomenon, anyone got any pics?

 

[Dubversion]

I don't hate the adherents, I just think that they look very silly. They seem to affect a funny way of talking to go with the funny clothes, which is even more bizarre - you can imitate it by speaking whilst pretending that you have no muscles in your face.

To be fair, I hate pretty much the entire music industry, so these clowns are not exactly especially blessed by my derision.

but goths, emos, teddy boys, Bowie fans and bobbysoxers also look(ed) silly. It's what kids do. if they're having fun, why worry about it?

 

[johnnymarrsbars]

exactly how are they NOT sheep dubversion?

wearing what theyre told and listening to what theyre told, by the likes of that shitstain mcnicholas.


get lost mate.

 

[kyser_soze]

i heard the klaxons version of grace's "not over yet" the other day. it was rubbish.

I heard that on XFM and agree - I nearly* cried as I've got e-piphany, dancing on the stage at Mudd club memories of that tun. Utterly shite.

Wasn't there a thread about some godawful trance-metal gimps, who sound like a poor man's linkin park with some noodly trance sounds recently?

*OK, it mildly irritated me.

 

[Dubversion]

you're bang into slagging off broad swathes of society aren't you, johnny? You seem to have a very dim view of anyone who.. well, anyone but you.

Sad state of affairs, really, but perhaps you'll grow out of it

 

[kyser_soze]

And going around calling sheep "cunts" is a fun trick for kids

And using them as cunts a way of life for a Welshman...

 

[Blagsta]

exactly how are they NOT sheep dubversion?

wearing what theyre told and listening to what theyre told, by the likes of that shitstain mcnicholas.


get lost mate.

Isn't that what being a teenager is about?

I don't get your hostility tbh.

 

[Dubversion]

I don't get your hostility tbh.

it's his USP - see also chavs who deserve to be shot, women who are sluts, that sort of thing

 

[Orang Utan]

I like new rave music. Rave music that's new. Isn't that what we're talking about?

 

[Fruitloop]

Teenage fashions have always been silly. Isn't that the point of them?

I dunno. I thought people who dressed up in funny clothes were tossers when I was a teenager myself, and haven't found any pressing reason to revise the opinion since then. I guess I just think it's a supplementary, alienated sort of identification that is predicated on a vacuous and recuperated kind of rebellion, but then I was born grumpy.

 

[Blagsta]

I dunno. I thought people who dressed up in funny clothes were tossers when I was a teenager myself, and haven't found any pressing reason to revise the opinion since then. I guess I just think it's a supplementary, alienated sort of identification that is predicated on a vacuous and recuperated kind of rebellion, but then I was born grumpy.

Teds? Punks? Goths? Hippies? Ravers?

 

[Bazza]

I was too young for old rave. Now I think I'm too old for nu-rave.

 

[milesy]

this thread's crap, let's slash the seats

 

[sam/phallocrat]

It hasn't reached PRO S. Yorks yet, thank fuck.

Anyway, Killing Sheep No. 5, the Producer track. Now *that's* 'new rave'

 

[Fruitloop]

Teds? Punks? Goths? Hippies? Ravers?

Don't know much about teds. The rest contained elements of genuine novelty and subversion combined in equal (or greater) part with the formulaic and reactionary. The nu stuff is just pure spectacle - the partially digested remains of yesterdays rebellion vomited up to fill the coffers of industry cunts and their shareholders.

 

[5t3IIa]

i heard the klaxons version of grace's "not over yet" the other day. it was rubbish. as is their version of "if your name's not down" track (was it by kicks like a mule or someone?), which was shit in the first place.

ah cheers Dub - "the bouncer". it was the teenager listening to the klaxons. i said "i've got the original of this ("not over yet") on CD somewhere". she said "i don't care".

the yoot of today, eh?

I downloaded some Klaxons for the pure-fucking-hell of it and there's no beats there! No beats at all!

I AM 33!

 

[Dubversion]

Don't know much about teds. The rest contained elements of genuine novelty and subversion combined in equal (or greater) part with the formulaic and reactionary. The nu stuff is just pure spectacle - the partially digested remains of yesterdays rebellion vomited up to fill the coffers of industry cunts and their shareholders.

i'm not sure the average 16 year old gives a fuck about your Situ analysis, so why not let them get on with it?

 

[ChrisFilter]

Don't care about the kidz, but the music winds me up, it's not remotely fucking rave..

 

[Negativland]

Visually and fashion wise it's OK. The early Klaxons videos were good, no?

The music, from vaguely upbeat indie with distorted bass to Ed Banger indie-house, is pretty much shit uniformly.

 

[Fruitloop]

i'm not sure the average 16 year old gives a fuck about your Situ analysis, so why not let them get on with it?

I do! I'm not exactly chasing the bastards about trying to shave their stupid fringes off or anything. Dislike is, however, my prerogative.

And yeah The Bouncer was one of the crappest things to come out of the whole rave thing (or rather its death throes, as it was at the time). I mean, if you're going to appropriate stuff it might as well be good.

 

[Balbi]

Let them get on with it; 95% will fall away from it in a year or so and find a wider musical world. The other 5% I am afraid will be culled.

Nowt wrong with dressing like a twat and listening to shit music when you're a yoof. In the end everyone realises Stevie Wonder is one of the godly creations of our time

(except that Blue bollocks, how did he not see that coming ffs )

 

[milesy]

I'm not exactly chasing the bastards about trying to shave their stupid fringes off or anything.

no, i bet you leave that to foo.

 

[Dubversion]

I do! I'm not exactly chasing the bastards about trying to shave their stupid fringes off or anything. Dislike is, however, my prerogative.

and wearing frightful fluoro dungarees is their's. Feel free to think they look dact (it's your generational responsibility to do so, in fact), i just think calling them sheep etc is unecessary

 

[5t3IIa]

Don't care about the kidz, but the music winds me up, it's not remotely fucking rave..

The kids don't care, they never have.

I work with a 22 year old who calls going-out-and-getting-pissed 'raving'. "I'm out raving tonight! I'm goinna get licked*!"

I ended up saying he "hadn't invented raving you know" <-- me, with a face like a cats bum and him saying "When did you ever go raving?"

It was fucking horrible, I felt 80




* vv drunk

 

[Bazza]

(except that Blue bollocks, how did he not see that coming ffs

 

[Fruitloop]

no, i bet you leave that to foo.

I'm just not scary enough.

 

[Yetman]

And using them as cunts a way of life for a Welshman...

Fucking hell, I think we've established, without a shadow of a doubt, that sheep are indeed cunts.

Poor cunts

 

[xenon]

At least it's not Emo.