Nour in Brixton Village under threat again

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by Frumious B., Feb 27, 2013.

  1. Frumious B.

    Frumious B. Well-Known Member

    InShops has halved the rent increase - Nour is staying!
     
  2. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    Hurrah!
    Although bearing in mind they'd already had a whacking increase last year, iirc, it's not a total victory.
     
  3. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    No shit?! Didn't anticipate that outcome.

    Whose rent have they added it on to?
     
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  4. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    Good point
     
  5. Frumious B.

    Frumious B. Well-Known Member

    Hopefully this will inspire the other traders to club together to negotiate their terms more forcefully.
     
  6. kittyP

    kittyP schmeeer

    Great news!! :)
     
  7. Frumious B.

    Frumious B. Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised too. The media coverage tipped the balance - the Standard and BBC News - the bigwigs at InShops really don't like being the bad guys in the press. It's a victory for socia media too - Twitter and the press make for a productive partnership, especially when there is a just cause.
     
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  8. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    ...and don't forget Reverend Billy! It went international.
     
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  9. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    Good news, but 11% is still a crippling increase. Inflation is 3.3%. Wages are down and people have less money in their pockets at the moment so retailers are already suffering. 11% a tough increase for any business. The reduction also makes it look like InShops simply chuck a dart at a dartboard to decide what they're gonna charge traders next year. The property owning classes are taking the piss all over the place.
     
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  10. B-Town

    B-Town Active Member


    Hang on, lets not forget that InStore have rejuvenated the area, brought thousands of people into a market that was historically quiet, and removed much of Nours competition. The changes made to GA have led to further gentrification of the area, ensuring the potential customer base for Nour to go after is more affluent, and they are now walking directly past his shop on a weekly basis. 11% is above inflation, but I suspect Nour's growth is above inflation also. If it is not, then maybe he could adapt his shop slightly to take advantage of the passing trade, given most of the village is BYO anyone who can get a licence is surely onto a winner.
     
  11. Frumious B.

    Frumious B. Well-Known Member

    It's rare to see so much nonsense crammed into four lines of text. Well done. Are you drunk?
     
  12. fortyplus

    fortyplus smug git

    Utter utter shit, they have done no such thing.


    The rejuvenation happened under InShops' predecessors, LAP, and still had fuck all to do with them. When the sites were listed, as a result of local action by local people, property developers LAP were stuck with something they didn't understand. They did a deal with Spacemakers to get the vacant units let as popups etc. Pioneering local businesses like Cornercopia, Federation and The Agile Rabbit took over some of the vacant units and made it happen. By the time InShops took the lease from LAP, the place was fully let.

    InShops have invested pretty much fuck all (a new fire alarm system, and a 20p-a-pee bog in the corner) . And there is absolutely no evidence that they have any clue at all about Brixton and its diversity.

    When they replaced LAP in April 2011 we all thought they could hardly be worse. How wrong we were. A completely useless shower of utter cunts.
     
  13. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    This, this and thrice this
     
  14. el-ahrairah

    el-ahrairah forward communism, forward gerbils!

    well down INSHOPS for fucking the plebs off out of Brixton.
     
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  15. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    In fact this is an unalloyed crock of steaming stinking shite. Do you work as PR for InStore?
     
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  16. wemakeyousoundb

    wemakeyousoundb and calm again

    thread had started so well
     
  17. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    Hard to know whether an 11% rise is a lot without knowing how long it was since the last review.
    If it is three years or more then it is not any more than inflation.
     
  18. Frumious B.

    Frumious B. Well-Known Member

    A brief marketwiki....

    London and Associated Properties (LAP) http://www.lap.co.uk owns the freehold of Market Row and Brixton Village. They managed everything until 1 April 2011, when they sold a 25 year lease to InShops Ltd of Liverpool http://www.inshopsretail.com, which is a subsidiary of Groupe Geraud of Paris http://www.groupegeraud.com/. According to LAP's annual reports for 2010 and 2011 "our agreement with Groupe Geraud includes a base rent of £817,500 plus a 50% profit share...on the net rent above £1,017,500. Current trading there exceeds that level by some margin."

    Forget about 'InStore'. It's InShops.
     
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  19. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    Thanks for that. Two different companies, I take it?
     
  20. Frumious B.

    Frumious B. Well-Known Member

    No, InStore doesn't exist. Just a mistake by B-Town.
     
  21. B-Town

    B-Town Active Member

    I didnt know it wasnt them (or the history tbh), but accepted I was wrong.

    With out wanting to come across as a troll, 11% might actually not be that bad. I presume there is increased footfall, and if Nours sales have risen 20% he would probably have accepted an 11% rise in advance. I am just speculating of course, but it does feel a lot busier when I shop in there now!
     
  22. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    :facepalm: you're not coming across as a troll, you're coming across as a clueless clown who knows fuck all about the situation.
     
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  23. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.



    They've rejuvenated a tiny part of the area for their own benefit.



    Bag of arse. The markets have never been "historically quiet", unless the local working class don't count as customers.



    Bigger bag of arse. Nour's main "competitors" are pretty much the same as ever.



    What's your point? It's footfall in the store that counts, not footfall for Granville Arcade per se. Neither Nour's custom or turnover has increased commensurate with this gentrification and increased potential you're drivelling about.

    You're not, and have never been, in retail, I take it? Cash and carry operations operate on fairly slim margins compared to retail-only operations. Finding the money (or even a loan facility in these credit-thin times) to go through the licensing process and buy in a sufficiently-varied stock to entice in people who usually buy their wine from a supermarket is pretty difficult even for a business that knows it's going to have a certain sell-through capacity.
     
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  24. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    Thank you ViolentPanda, you have expressed that beautifully. I was too incandescent with rage...
     
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  25. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    One signal indication of gentrification is the death or diminution of "local" shops due to the arrival of "aspirational" outlets that replace them, which generally don't serve the "indigenous" local populace nearly as well. B-Town saying that Nour should somehow "raise its' game" to capture the gentrifiers misses the point of places like Nour.
    I remember watching Battersea High Street, Northcote Road, Balham High Road and their assorted markets, then Clapham High Street all go "upmarket". The people who lost out were invariably those of us in social housing, who were used to market shopping and bargain-hunting.
     
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  26. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    Let them eat cake....well you can ViolentPanda, today at least as it's your birthday...hope it's not a vegan cupcake though, you deserve better than that
     
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  27. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    IIRC one of the petition threads said the last review was less than 18 months ago.
     
  28. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    My birthday "cake" for today is a chocolate salami similar to this:

    [​IMG]

    made by Greebo. :cool:
     
  29. Mrs Magpie

    Mrs Magpie On a bit of break...

    ...and InShits wanted £10,000 backdated to well beforehand from Nour.
     
  30. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    This is the bit I find really hard to understand. Rent increases I get, even if they're undesirable, but backdated ones? It seems like borderline extortion. Do people sign contracts agreeing that landlords can do that?:confused:
     
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