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Crispy said:
I know, I know - that's why I put the caveat in 'unless it's not been rereleased on CD'

even if they had been re-released, i'm not going to replace on CD a collection of valuable 7" vinyl i've spent years building up for the express purpose of playing out BECAUSE IT SOUNDS BETTER :p
 
Crispy said:
Lossless format sounds just fine :)

I know there's romance in vinyl, and there's lots of stuff that's not been released on CD. But for playing lots of tunes one after another without much fancy beatmatching/scratching etc. lossless digital music on a laptop is just so much more convenient.

Dj'ing for dullards eh....?

If thats what you're gonna do just put a f*cking cd on FFS....
 
Didn't tell you to - it's just a gentle windup!

But in all seriousness, if I was going to start a career from scratch right this moment, playing pop songs in order, I'd do it off a laptop for convenience.

Tab: I'm talking about the sort of DJing where, due to the style of tracks being played, all transitions are a fade from one track to the other. There's no point in making that any harder than it should be. And if you're the sort who gets a set figured out beforehand and rigidly sticks to it, then why not just post a mix CD to the venue and have a quiet night in? I mean, what's the actual advantage of being there? Reading the crowd and playing what they want is obviously the reason.

Of course, for seamless mixing and mixer fiddlage in dance music, vinyl has great interface advantage - the direct physical connection between hand, record and stylus is much more immediate than any computer could ever be.
 
Crispy said:
Didn't tell you to - it's just a gentle windup!

But in all seriousness, if I was going to start a career from scratch right this moment, playing pop songs in order, I'd do it off a laptop for convenience.
That's what I'm considering. And not for pop.
 
Crispy said:
Tab: I'm talking about the sort of DJing where, due to the style of tracks being played, all transitions are a fade from one track to the other. There's no point in making that any harder than it should be.

Apart from the sound quality, obviously :)
 
Dubversion said:
even if they had been re-released, i'm not going to replace on CD a collection of valuable 7" vinyl i've spent years building up for the express purpose of playing out BECAUSE IT SOUNDS BETTER :p
Erm, how about you play them out conventionally, but take a line-in from your sound system amp to your laptop, and record them in a lossless digital format on Crispy's iPod?

*runs and hides*
 
Dubversion said:
Apart from the sound quality, obviously :)
Because vinyl has been proven to actually 'sound better' than CD? Even cinyl that's been played to death in hot, moist, slippery, vibrating environments?
 
Crispy said:
Of course, for seamless mixing and mixer fiddlage in dance music, vinyl has great interface advantage - the direct physical connection between hand, record and stylus is much more immediate than any computer could ever be.

You get the same with decent CD decks too.
 
Dubversion said:
but if you already have the fucking singles, and they're not available on CD.

jesus wept, it's not a difficult concept to grasp :D
I was responding to your point about the sound quality of a particular format, not to the specific 7" carrying problem.

Not a difficult concept to grasp :p
 
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Crispy said:
Because vinyl has been proven to actually 'sound better' than CD? Even cinyl that's been played to death in hot, moist, slippery, vibrating environments?

I don't need 'proof', i have my personal experience which will suffice, thanks very much.
 
Ok, so imagine the following - you plug a nice record player into a nice soundcard and record songs from vinyl into 24-bit, 96kHz lossless digital music. Wouldn't playing that back sound exactly like the original? Once again, I don't suggest that you do this - for a start, it'd take ages to record all your records. But if I was going to get into it, that's what I'd do.
 
Crispy said:
Ok, so imagine the following - you plug a nice record player into a nice soundcard and record songs from vinyl into 24-bit, 96kHz lossless digital music. Wouldn't playing that back sound exactly like the original?
It would, and you'd have the advantage of being able to use software to get rid of a lot of the hiss/crackle. It's what I'd do to my vinyl collection if I had the time.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
It would, and you'd have the advantage of being able to use software to get rid of a lot of the hiss/crackle. It's what I'd do to my vinyl collection if I had the time.


you have NO idea :D
 
with the advent of this new-fangled multi-touch interface design on computers these days, I suspect that the best way to play dance music will be through a computer within the next 5 years. You'll download a high quality digital copy of the latest track and it'll sound like it did in the studio - no matter how many times you play it - and it will be utterly impossible to fuckup the beatmatching, as the time signature will be impregnated in the file. Anyone who sticks to records in an age of such technology would be a foolish romanticist.

NOT FOR REGGAE OF COURSE, BEFORE I GET HUNG.
 
Crispy said:
with the advent of this new-fangled multi-touch interface design on computers these days, I suspect that the best way to play dance music will be through a computer within the next 5 years. You'll download a high quality digital copy of the latest track and it'll sound like it did in the studio - no matter how many times you play it - and it will be utterly impossible to fuckup the beatmatching, as the time signature will be impregnated in the file. Anyone who sticks to records in an age of such technology would be a foolish romanticist.

and in so doing, surely the notion of DJ as anything other than someone who just sticks tunes on (like what I do) pretty much becomes redundant?
 
Dubversion said:
and in so doing, surely the notion of DJ as anything other than someone who just sticks tunes on (like what I do) pretty much becomes redundant?
Yep, then finally DJs might stop thinking of themselves as bloody musicians and go back to being people that simply play records :p ;)
 
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