Jonti
what the dormouse said
well, yes, the school would have been fine if he didn't go to school ...

well, yes, the school would have been fine if he didn't go to school ...

They refused to do it and said they were not allowed to give my son antibiotics (this was two years ago in a Wandsworth school)
So I had to go in everyday at lunchtime and give him a dose... Which wasn't a problem as I was working next to the school at a time, but still...
Sorry but that sounds like a total cop out. What if he was on long term life-saving meds? They would expect the parent to give up work/ any life to administer the medicine???



i should think in such circumstance the child might be awarde a statement and then the person employed to support the child would be sufficiently trained to administer the meds, possibly
it is a murky murky grey area though, shiftyjunior needs his meds, they are vital to his health and well being and are a long term thing, its non-negotiable i'm afraid.
if i am legally required to send him to school then surely the must have some responsibility to meet his medical needs while he is there?
i've spoken to my mother who is a primary school teacher and she has given me some illuminating information, she agrees that they sound like they are not supporting him very much and if his behaviour were so serious as to warrant meetings and regular discussion then they should have been recording it and i should be better informed than i am.
so i have many lines of enquiry to follow with this teacher and i will suggest that i go and observe his behaviour in class, that teh TA or learnign mentor could give him a bit more support and encouragement if the teacher is unable to do so, that people do not discuss his 'problem behaviour' with me in front of him because he seems to have picked up on the negative terminology floating about and i will not have him describe himself in those negative terms
they wont be calling me in for meetings in a rush![]()
There's a nurse at the school, he/she is already suitably qualified to admin meds. I can't see on earth why you would require a statement to do that. Just send the medication in, with instructions for dosage and sign any consent forms that need signing. That's how they do it at my son's school.
The school nurse works part time and has to cover six schools in this part of lambeth so she's not on site or on call unfortuantely

Did you say you had a meeting with them today? Did they say anything useful?
Im assuming the other school is covered by the same nurse, so you'd be reliant upon the school (again) the remind your son to take his medication. Is there anyway you can speak directly with the school nurse, perhaps a meeting with her? Or can your consultant/GP intervene with her directly?


Sounds like your son may be better off in a private school. If every mum expected the teachers to do things like suprevise their child taking medications, writing up care plans, and providing behaviour policies etc no-one would get educated. In a private school you will get what you pay for and they will have the staff and the time to deal with all your son's special needs.

I actually can't believe how stupid your post is. Please tell me you're trolling. Or explain why 'special needs' kids don't deserve state schools....
Sorry, just read the special needs and did not mean it as 'special needs' as such. Just sounded like the kid may get on better in the private system where kids that have energy get encouraged in a way they cant be in large state school classes. One of my lads is in private and one lad and his sister in the state system. Suits their personalities!
Thanks
If he takes them at regularly spaced inervals then he needs to have it about 4 times during school hours and i cant keep running up and down like that.
at the moment i've got all his medications in a bottle and said he just needs to be reminded to drink it regularly and should finish the bottle by the end of teh day. today he had less than a third of what he should have and now i have to wake him up during the night so that the doses arent too close together. I've had to do that twice this week when teh school haven't done what i asked which is a hassle. It means I've got to stay up late and he gets disturbed because instructions were not followed.
they dont allow watches but i'm going to look for some sort of an alarm that i can set to go off every hour to remind him to drink it. He is just too young to expect him to remember himself which is what the teacher expected of him today
i think shes going to say she doesnt want to accept teh responsibility of it, thats the impression she gave me today anyway
Gosh i hope so.
Unless he is doing something very very naughty that i dont know about (which is possible seen as i dont think the teacher is telling me everything) it seems like they are making a very big fuss over some quite normal behaviour.
Newsflash for educationalists: People really are different, you know!



There's a nurse at the school, he/she is already suitably qualified to admin meds. I can't see on earth why you would require a statement to do that. Just send the medication in, with instructions for dosage and sign any consent forms that need signing. That's how they do it at my son's school.
What would they do if they had an eplieptic child or an asthmatic one (they may well do?) They would have to have some kind of nursing intervention then.
I actually can't believe how stupid your post is. Please tell me you're trolling. Or explain why 'special needs' kids don't deserve state schools....
Aggghh.
More flipping drama.
He was ssent out of his class this afternoon for pushing someone. Fine I absolutely support discipline. No problem with that. I confiscated a toy from him and he will be missing a playtime when he goes to school.
fine
However, he told me that the head of teh year didnt like him. Why do you say that i asked him 'Because she said she was fed up with me when i went to her class'.
She also told my son that she was going to speak tot he head about him and taking him out of his class because he didnt deserve to be there.
He was really upset about it.
So am i actually. I am furious that anyone should speak to my child like that. That she would threaten him with exclusion before discussing it with me and that she would speak to him as though he is a problem.
So far he has come home with teh impression that he is lazy, the teachers cant'/won't remind him to take his meds and that they arefed up with him. Am I being reactionary in thinking that this is bad fro his self esteem? Maybe I am but I am adamant that they should not speak to him like that. Alienating him and making him think he is trouble will not encourage him.
I called and spoke to her, to establish what did actually happen and she did not deny saying that to him, she said that he must know that they wont have him behaving like that and tried to make out as though i was excusing him pushing someone when i made it clear more than once that i was not. I asked her if she thought it was appropriate to speak to a six year old child in that manner and she didnt see why not. She did not care that she had upset him, did not apologise and said that he would have been upset anyway because he was going to miss a playtime
I am speaking to the head tomorrow hopefully. I'm just so exasperated by it all.
Incidentally, the teacher did not tell me that he had pushed anyone or was sent out of the class when i picked him up, only because i went into the class to help him look for something and saw his name on the red traffic light and tehn asked what he had done. Surely as he was sent out of the class and did somethign bad they should have told me when i picked him up?
.I can understand her saying something like being fed up with him, but it's really bad practice (she should be able to control her emotions, especially since that's what she's expecting him to do). She should have apologised and it shouldn't happen again. There's no way she should be telling a six-year-old he doesn't deserve to be in that class. With a teenager, you might well have a discussion about how their behaviour could lead to exclusion, but not with a six-year-old. I don't blame your son for being unhappy
I do agree but if it was serious enough fpor him to be sent out of his class and if the head of year is now seriously considering informal exclusions then I should think they would want to raise the issue with the parent and not merely threaten the chiod with it without giving any notice or details of teh behaviour policy and when such things would be implementedRegarding his behaviour - TBH, no I wouldn't expect them to tell you that when you pick him up. It would simply take too long to provide all parents with feedback about their child's behaviour day to day, unless it was really serious - and pushing another child, while an action that does need to be dealt with and discouraged, is not all that serious.
Have done and our other local school has a waiting list. I will put his name down just in caseContact the other school by phone to see if, by chance, they do have any places. Sometimes not all places are filled once the school year's begun. Of course, moving school might not be the solution, but it would be good to have it as a fall-back.
I have offered to go in and observe him in class so that i can see how disruptive he might be and they declined. They have not even given me a copy of their behaviour policy as requested. They like to keep the walls up and are very very poor at parental involvememnt.Then you can see for yourself what the place is like. It won't be the same as if you weren't there, of course, but it will still make you somewhat better informed.
i dont mind her moving the medication, i just think that if she had explained it to him that he wouldnt have reacted in teh way he did (he said 'you cant take it, its mine'). moving it is fine if she still remembers to give it to him.FWIW, the teacher might have needed to move the medication if it was out on the table in front of all the other kids, who might play with it or even take it. But then it would be better to tell him to put it away, rather than just taking it; of course, he might have refused to put it away, being worried that he was going to forget it!


Is there a chance the school doesn't like you and they are taking this out on your child?

no i havent, i wasnt aware that there was an EWO, teh school nurse did not mentione anything when drawing up the care plan. I will bear it in mind though, thank you very much for that infoHave you tried contacting the EWO at your local authority? It's their responsibilty to manage to keep children in school, and to facilitate any problems if they can't.
well i should hope notIs there a chance the school doesn't like you and they are taking this out on your child?
besides, who could 'not like me'? 
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I could understand her saying she was fed up of him too, if she said it in the staff room but i dont understand why she thinks its ok to look into a childs face, especially my childs face(yes i know), and say that to him.
Its unprofessional and it teaches him nothing except maybe that he is a problem
I do agree but if it was serious enough fpor him to be sent out of his class and if the head of year is now seriously considering informal exclusions then I should think they would want to raise the issue with the parent and not merely threaten the chiod with it without giving any notice or details of teh behaviour policy and when such things would be implemented
I have offered to go in and observe him in class so that i can see how disruptive he might be and they declined.

i dont mind her moving the medication, i just think that if she had explained it to him that he wouldnt have reacted in teh way he did (he said 'you cant take it, its mine'). moving it is fine if she still remembers to give it to him.
he now has a little laminated note on his table that says 'have i taken my medicine today?' and that reminds teh teacher when she walks past, we've also discussed times when it might be convenient for him to take it, as i dont know how the school day is broken down thats really up to the teacher to say when it would practical for him to have it
i'm off for a big cup of tea and some mindless telly. need to spend a few hours thinking about something other than schools and hospitals![]()
In Camden, primary school staff are not permitted to administer any medication. Certain senior trained staff may choose to administer life-saving medication, epipens etc but they are not legally obliged to do so, and must choose to accept any consequences if they do. You're not offered a lot of protection, and you're on your own if it all goes tits up.
We have a little cookery timer in the school office to remind children to take their medication, but again, have no responsibility if we don't. We only have one child who HAS to take their medication at a particular time, and the local authority Educational Welfare Officer arranges a nurse to come in each day to administer it.
Have you tried contacting the EWO at your local authority? It's their responsibilty to manage to keep children in school, and to facilitate any problems if they can't.