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Norman's House

Aside from documenting Norman's travails, I'm also using this thread to give those who are interested a bit of a visual acquaintance with Vancouver in general; so what follows, is more of that. Don't click on them if not interested.

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These are mostly taken in the Dunbar area, although the red house is in Arbutus Ridge.
 
Come on Johnny, you could at least have straightened up the picture of the red house. It is the most interesting of that set even with the reflections from your windscreen on it.
 
Hocus Eye. said:
Come on Johnny, you could at least have straightened up the picture of the red house. It is the most interesting of that set even with the reflections from your windscreen on it.
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Straightened how? The house is built on a rise; the lines are what they are. As for the windshield, this isn't 'submit to the U75 critics'. I said what the purpose of the photos is.
 
Ooooh I'm a nosey cow and it's really interesting to see where you live.
First impressions:
1. OMFG you've got huge mountains looming over your city :eek:
2. It all seems really clean, there doesn't seem to be much rubbish and graf and shit on the streets. Maybe this is just cos the photos are from a distance. Or maybe it's cos we English really are filthy fuckers. I dunno. Your thoughts?
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Straightened how? The house is built on a rise; the lines are what they are.
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Rotate left about 5 degrees. (I am guessing this amount from memory of the picture - my browser won't connect to your link at the moment) In the UK houses built on a rise are still built using a plumb bob so that the walls are vertical. I don't believe that is not the case in Canada. :)
 
Hocus Eye. said:
Rotate left about 5 degrees. (I am guessing this amount from memory of the picture - my browser won't connect to your link at the moment) In the UK houses built on a rise are still built using a plumb bob so that the walls are vertical. I don't believe that is not the case in Canada. :)
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For crying out loud. Like the world isn't fucking bent enough!

Fuck off technocrats.
 
Yes I have just checked the picture now that the link is working. Five degrees exactly is what put it right. All the houses down in the valley are now level as well as giving the dominant red house correctly vertical uprights.

Stanley that is not technology, it is instinct and also convention - giving the viewers what they expect. I have saved a copy of the rotated and cropped picture but of course it is not my business to upload someone else's image.
 
Hocus Eye. said:
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Stanley that is not technology, it is instinct and also convention - giving the viewers what they expect...
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:rolleyes:

Giving the viewers what they expect? And, just what is it you suspect they expect?

You are a technocrat.
 
Yes Stanley, if using a bit of kit to get the best possible results is being a technocrat then I am a technocrat.
 
Hocus Eye. said:
Yes Stanley, if using a bit of kit to get the best possible results is being a technocrat then I am a technocrat.
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So, if I chose to present a wobbly world to you, you would just straighten it and tell everyone to look at the rules?
 
claire said:
Ooooh I'm a nosey cow and it's really interesting to see where you live.
First impressions:
1. OMFG you've got huge mountains looming over your city :eek:
2. It all seems really clean, there doesn't seem to be much rubbish and graf and shit on the streets. Maybe this is just cos the photos are from a distance. Or maybe it's cos we English really are filthy fuckers. I dunno. Your thoughts?
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No, it's actually clean. People tend not to litter much, and the city employs crews who go out every night and pick up all the garbage off the streets.
 
Hocus Eye. said:
Yes I have just checked the picture now that the link is working. Five degrees exactly is what put it right. All the houses down in the valley are now level as well as giving the dominant red house correctly vertical uprights.

Stanley that is not technology, it is instinct and also convention - giving the viewers what they expect. I have saved a copy of the rotated and cropped picture but of course it is not my business to upload someone else's image.
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As I said earlier, I didn't post in the 'critics' thread, because these are just rough and ready pics, to give those interested, a taste of vancouver. I took the photo from my car, while moving. Perfection is hard to achieve in the circumstances.

If you want technically precise photos, you should be looking elsewhere than this thread.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
If you want technically precise photos, you should be looking elsewhere than this thread.
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I'd settle for something vaugely interesting actually - which Norman's House could be, but much like your trip acrross Canada, their just fucking dull Johnny. Your a lazy photographer even by amature snapper standards. & as a result [also like your Canada trip] I haven't been arsed to click a link past the first few.
 
Pie 1 said:
I'd settle for something vaugely interesting actually - which Norman's House could be, but much like your trip acrross Canada, their just fucking dull Johnny. Your a lazy photographer even by amature snapper standards. & as a result [also like your Canada trip] I haven't been arsed to click a link past the first few.
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Well, like Hocus: stop looking!
 
 
Pie 1 said:
I'd settle for something vaugely interesting actually - which Norman's House could be, but much like your trip acrross Canada, their just fucking dull Johnny. Your a lazy photographer even by amature snapper standards. & as a result [also like your Canada trip] I haven't been arsed to click a link past the first few.
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Btw, this kind of says it all, dunnit?



04-11-2006, 10:34 AM
Pie 1
Cheese Monkey Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,644

My Pictures

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It has occured to me, and not for the first time, that I rarely post up pictures for you lot to look at but I give my two pence worth when others put theirs up.
 
It doesn't say it all. You missed out the part where he offered to send to posters by pm his web address pointing out that it was a commercial site and he didn't want it generally available. Some of us availed ourselves of the offer and looked at his professional work.
 
Hocus Eye. said:
It doesn't say it all. You missed out the part where he offered to send to posters by pm his web address pointing out that it was a commercial site and he didn't want it generally available. Some of us availed ourselves of the offer and looked at his professional work.
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The point is, I've put up these pictures on this thread, mostly to give interested people a view of a place they haven't been, and maybe won't go. Same thing with the across the country thing. I do it because I like the visuals of things, and therefore wanted to share them.

I recognize that most of them aren't of much if any creative merit; but even so, I still have pretensions sometimes to taking 'photographs', so, like anyone in the same boat, I'm a bit sensitive to criticism. As a result, when I feel like exposing something to criticism, I post it on the 'criticism' thread. But I'm aware that by putting my pics in a public place, they run the chance of attracting comment, bad or good.

Sure, pie told people that he has a site, and will give out the link under various qualifications. But if he's interested in a dialogue on photography, including his own, maybe he can get over his own self professed laziness, and spend the five minutes it takes to upload a few images to flickr or photobucket, and put them here for general consumption.

In the meantime, what I get, is an apparent professional photographer, coming here to slam the technicals of what amount to my holiday snaps. Wtf, eh?
 
And think about it: you've come out with some criticism of these pics that I might characterized as a touch crotchety, but this:


26-04-2007, 09:38 AM
Pie 1
Cheese Monkey Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,644
Johnny. Your a lazy photographer even by amature snapper standards. & as a result [also like your Canada trip] I haven't been arsed to click a link past the first few.


?

I've seen some real crap on some of these photo threads, but it's always seemed to me that the tenor of the photo threads was to be somewhat supportive if possible or whatever; after all, this isn't the p and p forum. Why the personal attack, even with the bad spelling? To use one of your british terms, I think it's bang out of order.

Hopefully Pie will take my advice, and rest his eyes on the more nourishing photos to be found in other threads, or on other sites.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Why the personal attack, even with the bad spelling? To use one of your british terms, I think it's bang out of order.
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What personal attack?
Canuck, don't start whimpering - you of all people are big enough to take it - get a grip FFS.

Thing is, if you actually took any real notice of this forum then you'd know that:

a: I do post up images - not as often as others may do, but it's neither here or there.

b: This may not be p&p, but it can be a robust debating forum. What it most certainly is not is a back slapping club for any old rubbish.

C: People gennerally expect critisism here, and if you thought that you could exempt yourself from this by not posting in the " critisism thread" then your sorely mistaken:D
The other thing about critisism is that you are actually supossed to take it away, process it and possible apply it.
I remember people (myself included) howling at you to pack in the link fest on your Canada trip thread and do some editing - seems it fell on deaf ears, eh?

PS: Next time you want to get all sensitive on us, try not to quote people out of context from a 6 month old post and then critisise the odd spelling mistake :rolleyes:

(thank you Hocus for pointing that out as well)
 
Pie 1 said:
What personal attack?
Canuck, don't start whimpering - you of all people are big enough to take it - get a grip FFS.

Thing is, if you actually took any real notice of this forum then you'd know that:

a: I do post up images - not as often as others may do, but it's neither here or there.

b: This may not be p&p, but it can be a robust debating forum. What it most certainly is not is a back slapping club for any old rubbish.

C: People gennerally expect critisism here, and if you thought that you could exempt yourself from this by not posting in the " critisism thread" then your sorely mistaken:D
The other thing about critisism is that you are actually supossed to take it away, process it and possible apply it.
I remember people (myself included) howling at you to pack in the link fest on your Canada trip thread and do some editing - seems it fell on deaf ears, eh?

PS: Next time you want to get all sensitive on us, try not to quote people out of context from a 6 month old post and then critisise the odd spelling mistake :rolleyes:

(thank you Hocus for pointing that out as well)
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The point is this; I've made it clear that the pics on this thread serve only an expository purpose. It's true that I could probably spend more time and make pics that were both a record of the city, and artistic as well. But, I don't always have the time. I believe that some people are actually interested in seeing some photos of Vancouver that are taken by a local, and aren't just of the usual postcard images. Many if not most are taken from my car, at about 50 kph, when I see something and think 'that looks interesting'.

Yes, I could stop and do the things to make it a 'nice' picture, but then I'd never be doing anything else. So, I've sacrificed art, and made a travelogue...

As for your criticism, when you say that with this thread and the trip thread, you looked at a few and couldn't be arsed to look at the rest, then - how can you criticise something you haven't seen?
 
I dunno about all this technical criticism, as I know the square root of fuck all about photography. But I for one have enjoyed seeing pics of a place totally different to Leeds (where I live) or London (which I know very well).

Aren't you allowed to post up any old pics on here?
 
claire said:
I dunno about all this technical criticism, as I know the square root of fuck all about photography. But I for one have enjoyed seeing pics of a place totally different to Leeds (where I live) or London (which I know very well).

Aren't you allowed to post up any old pics on here?
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Next, I'll try to get out to Surrey or maybe Coquitlam.
 
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