goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Middle aged man behaving badly occasionally.
NOOOOOOO!! Reggie Perrin to be remade....
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tangerinedream
Density of Sound
Really? One of his defining stage performances was as Arturo Ui in Brecht's anti fascist number 'The Resitible rise of Arturo Ui' which is pretty un right wing. There again, Charlton Heston made some cracking films, so I suppose you can't judge an actor's politics from the roles he plays.
tangerinedream
Density of Sound
ny, way, I thought Clunes was alright in it, it had a couple of nice lines, the two office monkeys were shit and it was forgettable and the canned laughter made me certain I'll never watch it again. Can't really remember the original.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
Remade with Martin Clunes
Not sure about that tbh
this was my response to until it was pointed out by my flat mate that it's likely that a whole generation won't have ever seen it or would be able to relate to the original as they wouldn't understand the cutural refferences of the time, which he's prolly right about...
so mabe it's a good thing if they keep the original scripts have to see it to know for sure though...
scifisam
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To my surprise, I actually really enjoyed that. It was different enough to the original that it did seem like a genuine reimagining of the idea - usually that means 'take the original, rip the heart out, digest it, and serve up the excrement as new fodder.' Clunes had the right mix of hope and despair, and the old lines and characters meshed well with the new ones. A few lines made me laugh out loud (particularly the one about Reggie's white suit being what a lesbian bride would wear).
Did anyone else like it? I was a huge fan of the original, btw, read the books and everything.
Did anyone else like it? I was a huge fan of the original, btw, read the books and everything.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Has Kevin Costner ever tried his hand with Lear I wonder? Or possibly a Baldwin brother?
Or better yet, what about Sylvester Stallone?
scifisam
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Adam Baldwin as Hamlet: To be or not to - ah, fuck it. He killed my - *thwack! crunch! bumpbumpbump.* Father! Mom, you're a crazy woman who married my Uncle. Ophelia, you're pretty, but crazy. Laertes, what's say we go kick some ass?
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
I had high hopes for this, i've read the book(s), really enjoyed them, but this was a bit 'meh'
Not seen the 70's version, but then I wasn't alive then!!!
Was ok, just seemed like another 'BBC3 style' not-very-funny comedy to me. It could have had so much potential
Don't like the laughter track either
I didn't get where i am today by watching modern remakes
Not seen the 70's version, but then I wasn't alive then!!!
Was ok, just seemed like another 'BBC3 style' not-very-funny comedy to me. It could have had so much potential
Don't like the laughter track either I didn't get where i am today by watching modern remakes
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Thing is, I always saw Hamlet as a bit of a badass. OK he's weird, but you definitely get the idea that Laertes isn't too keen to cross swords with him in any sort of straight fight.
At the time it was written, there was a big fuss going on between the traditional English 'masters of defence' whose practice was basically derived from the Wars of the Roses, and a couple of poncy Italian rapier guys who were teaching the rich wankers at court. The masters of defence, most notably George Silver, really hated the court fencers, a) because they wouldn't duel with 'peasants' no matter how often Silver and his mates challenged them to fight and b) because they saw the rapier, not unreasonably, as an optimised murder weapon rather than a battle sword. Shakespeare is obviously pretty well up on all this stuff from some fairly sophisticated comments he makes, particularly in respect of the subtleties of Tybalt's fencing style in Romeo and Juliet.
Hamlet seems to me to be one of those faintly sinister, deadly, rapier guys. Too depressed and decadent to care if he lives or dies, but given Hamlet is still breathing, most likely a lot of people have died on the end of his rapier already.
There's also that thing about his deadly wit, constantly being compared to his sword. He's a badass, albeit a seriously depressed and not very sane one, not any sort of emo/goth whiner.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Take that back.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Some of the updates were quite good, the boss, the medic and the two nerds, but the big problem is Martin Clunes.
He is neither funny enough, or able to convey the inner turmoil.
It says it all that apparently no one else was offered the role. That's how big mistakes get made.
Robert Lindsay, for example, (think how on the edge he played in Bleasdale's dramas) to name one would have been better and I am sure there are plenty of others.
He is neither funny enough, or able to convey the inner turmoil.
It says it all that apparently no one else was offered the role. That's how big mistakes get made.
Robert Lindsay, for example, (think how on the edge he played in Bleasdale's dramas) to name one would have been better and I am sure there are plenty of others.
mrsfran
Well-Known Member
I liked it and would watch it again.
But Robert Lindsey already plays a very similar character in My Family. Michael Sheen could've done a good job, probably. I don't think Clunes is bad though.
But Robert Lindsey already plays a very similar character in My Family. Michael Sheen could've done a good job, probably. I don't think Clunes is bad though.
Woollyredhat
Active Member
While it wasn't amazing, it wasn't terrible either. Average, but has the potential to get better. Clunes wasn't half bad either.
scifisam
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That's a very valid interpretation, and it's one I agree with - but like you say, he's a quiet, sneaky, witty kind of badass, not the 'crash bang whallop who needs emotions' type Adam Baldwin usually plays.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Live audience, actually. Same as for The IT Crowd, they've just been coached to the point where the real thing sounds canned.
madzone
Physically unfavourable
I didn't like it much. I thought it was trying too hard to be two different things and failed at both of them. They weren't brave enough to do a complete modernisation and in trying to tip their hat to the original a bit too much it meant it sat out of place IMO. The original ain't broke so why try to fix it? 
And Clunes was just wet
And Clunes was just wet
tangerinedream
Density of Sound
zoooo
zero tolerance for walkers
Nah. They just get whipped up into a frenzy by the warm-up guy. Also they've taken an evening out of their lives to come out and see the show, they want to laugh.
True, it is an unnatural situation and they do laugh way more than they would at home. But they're not exactly 'told when to laugh'.
True, it is an unnatural situation and they do laugh way more than they would at home. But they're not exactly 'told when to laugh'.
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