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Right. So have you some kind of 'Authentic Audio Heartbreak Detector' device on hand to test these things?

i would have thought most people could tell the difference between heartbreak and cliche, and the few tracks i've heard are laden with cliche
 
I like the second album too. If I was dictator I would have sentenced them to hard labour in the gulags for the first album and pardoned them for the second.
 
i would have thought most people could tell the difference between heartbreak and cliche, and the few tracks i've heard are laden with cliche
Spaketh the authento-snob. Fuck you student, your heartbreak is not real enough for me. Come back when you are more 4real kthxbye.
 
i would have thought most people could tell the difference between heartbreak and cliche, and the few tracks i've heard are laden with cliche
One man's cliché is another man's heartfelt emotion - I'm sure some might find some of the songs you emotionally connect with to be trite and cliché ridden, but feel free to keep pouring the scorn if that's your bag.

:)
 
One man's cliché is another man's heartfelt emotion - I'm sure some might find some of the songs you emotionally connect with to be trite and cliché ridden, but feel free to keep pouring the scorn if that's your bag.

:)

it wasn't scorn, it was criticism. You really need to get a thicker skin when it comes to people criticising things you like, because you can be equally critical of things you don't like and it looks a bit... lopsided.
 
FWIW, it's not unlike a weaker version of what the new Smog album sounds like, so give that a go. The first track especially.
 
or this track from the same album


similar vocal approach, similar ambitious arrangement but some real lyrical insight
 
it wasn't scorn, it was criticism. You really need to get a thicker skin when it comes to people criticising things you like, because you can be equally critical of things you don't like and it looks a bit... lopsided.
What I find a little 'lopsided' is when you personally can't find any pleasure or value in a band, then you seem compelled to rubbish anyone expressing a positive opinion, knocking them down with pompous tosh like, "I would have thought most people could tell the difference between heartbreak and cliche..."
 
What I find a little 'lopsided' is when you personally can't find any pleasure or value in a band, then you seem compelled to rubbish anyone expressing a positive opinion, knocking them down with pompous tosh like, "I would have thought most people could tell the difference between heartbreak and cliche..."


well i guess that's a difference in style but you can be fucking harsh when you don't like something, so it all seems a little hypocritical to me.

and i'm sorry if you found that quote "pompous tosh", but it seemed pretty plain-spoken and coherent to me.
 
If someone writes some lyrics which come straight from their heart (forgive the cheesy phrasing), then they read them back and realise they might be a bit cliché and so change them to something else this could actually in a way be less 'authentic' then just sticking with what they originally said. On a side note Smog is excellent though. Annoying none of it is on Spotify though.
 
Just found this in a Jiffy bag this morning and thought I'd play it.

I'm with Jefe on this one; someone really has been listening hard to Messrs Oldham, Callahan, Berman and Molina.

The album sounds decent enough but I've no real need for it when those four masters have made forty albums between them.

Oh and Jefe, Secretly Canadian brought out an album by Molina and Johnson (that's Will from Centro-matic, not Daniel) which I never saw reviewed anywhere but is really nice and worth a listen. Johnson is under-rated.
 
Oh holy shit. Just remembered this. The guy from Noah and the Whale was on 5Live this week bleating to Victoria Derbyshire about how some TV commercial refabricated their "In Five Years Time" tune and never paid them any royalties.

Oh, the irony.

Get the lawdogs out Berman!
 
On further listens, I reckon the first three or four songs really are quite excellent, and after that the album gets a little bit bland, but still interesting enough to elevate the band over the mainstream.

It's not a great album, but it's certainly worth a listen.
 
On further listens, I reckon the first three or four songs really are quite excellent, and after that the album gets a little bit bland, but still interesting enough to elevate the band over the mainstream.

It's not a great album, but it's certainly worth a listen.


Funnily enough I find it a decent listen but I can nail where it comes from in my record collection and that in that respect El Jefe is on the money.

Fair play to them in away...if it gets more people to listen to Smog, Magnolia Electric Co, Will Oldham/Palace, Silver Jews then it's not a bad thing.

And, track 5 is an Aaron Copland reprise.
 
I thought they were rubbish and very reluctantly went to see them at Glasto because my daughter was very keen.


Well I have to take it all back because I found that they were really terrific, very evocative and melancholy (which I like) and good musicians to boot.

They deserved a much bigger crowd but they clashed with Lady GaGa or summat.:(
 
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