No Sharia Law UK

[Bernie Gunther]

While I completely support the rejection of sharia law, why can't we also reject laws designed to support neo-liberal ideology, at least equally pernicious and unwholesome.

 

[likesfish]

cause I have no Idea what your muttering about.

sharia and the jewish courts would you go to a party where blokes get first dibs at the food and booze and women get whats left.?

most urbanites would go no thats unfair

c of e court you have to be a vicar or some version of vicarish for it to apply

 

[derf]

Don't know what you are moaning about.
Basic English law is based on Christian ideals anyway.
Now that Islam is becoming strong in the UK it's just a natural change to see Islamic ideas emerging.

People in the UK rejected the church them moan when a new group bring their religion to the country along with legal ideas,

At the moment it has no legal force and only applies to those who chose to have it applied so no problem to anyone else really.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

the UK has a muslim population of, I think, 1 to 1.5m. maybe 2%.

I doubt even 10% seriously want Sharia law and far less campaign for it.

I wonder how much of this march is muslim organised, it would have some credibility if it were. Otherwise I suspect is more for your paranoid xenephobe.

Some parts of Sharia are highly objectionable of course, but there are other bits we should look alot more closely at in the light of current events - the outlawing of usery comes straight to mind.

 

[ViolentPanda]

if you don't like sharia law, may i suggest you move somewhere else?

Not to Canada though, obviously, what with them having accepted Sharia into Canadian civil law years ago.
I hear it's a hotbed of hand-chopping and perve-stoning, nowadays.

 

[butchersapron]

I wonder how much of this march is muslim organised, it would have some credibility if it were. Otherwise I suspect is more for your paranoid xenephobe.

If you wonder so, why not click on my links above or have a quick 'google'.

 

[jimadore]

Shria law is in Bradford now? saw a Channel 4 documentry about it 3 months ago works well ?and much cheaper than the british law system .There is a movement to have Sharia Law across the U.K for Muslims only.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Shria law is in Bradford now? saw a Channel 4 documentry about it 3 months ago works well ?and much cheaper than the british law system .There is a movement to have Sharia Law across the U.K for Muslims only.

Grossly inaccurate.
There's a movement to have aspects of sharia law incorporated into (while remaining subsidiary to) UK civil law. That's civil law, not criminal law, and means that if they want, Muslims (just like Jews in the UK) can have some of their socio-legal needs dealt with within their culture. The only Muslims seeking a sharia hegemony are a minority of extremist so-called "Islamists".

 

[jimadore]

hello violentpanda, that was said on t.v program dont know much about law Shira or not, but was much quicker than the british system?

 

[butchersapron]

ern, or whatever one it is pretending to be thick - give it a fucking rest eh?

 

[jimadore]

Hi butchersapron, whats your probelm ?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I'm not sure I believe in you either tbh.

 

[purplex]

I'm all for allowing ethnic communities to continue traditional practices which don't impact freedoms, legal rights and aren't discriminatory.

 

[likesfish]

ubfortunatly sharia fucks over women quite well and I bet no pressure is put on said women to go a long with said "law" right

the FSM will be having words

 

[littlebabyjesus]

ubfortunatly sharia fucks over women quite well and I bet no pressure is put on said women to go a long with said "law" right

the FSM will be having words

How do you stop it, though, without being authoritarian?

 

[Urbanblues]

...any more than there are moves to have a big Thunderdome put in the Old Bailey.

Another building project hit by the economic downturn.

Where will it all end?

 

[Urbanblues]

And I can build a Thunderdome in the spare room.

Be careful who you employ. You do know there are blacklists of Bolshie builders.

 

[laptop]

The FSM will be having words

How do you stop it, though, without being authoritarian?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

bust a deal, face the wheel

 

[Frankie Jack]

There are also no moves to install Sharia law, any more than there are moves to have a big Thunderdome put in the Old Bailey.

Can you point me in the direction of the information that brought you to this conclusion FM..

 

[durruti02]

March 7, 2009, North Terrace, Trafalgar Square, 3:30-4:30pm

Symbolic demonstration in support of one law for all in Britain and against religious based tribunals followed by a march to Red Lion Square from 4:30-5:30pm

March 7, 2009, 6:00-8:00pm, Conway Hall, 25 Red Lion Square, London WC1R 4RL

Public Meeting on Sharia Law, Sexual Apartheid and Women's Rights

Speakers include: Sargul Ahmad (International Campaign against Civil Law in Kurdistan Iraq head), Yasmin Alibhai-Brown (Journalist and British Muslims for Secular Democracy Chair), Naser Khader (Democratic Muslims Founder), Gina Khan (One Law for All Spokesperson), Kenan Malik (Writer and Broadcaster), Yasaman Molazadeh (One Law for All Legal Coordinator):Maryam Namazie (Equal Rights Now – Organisation against Women’s Discrimination in Iran and One Law for All Spokesperson), Pragna Patel (Southall Black Sisters and Women Against Fundamentalism founding member), Fariborz Pooya (Iranian Secular Society and Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain Chair), and Carla Revere (Lawyers’ Secular Society Chair).

this is good ..

 

[durruti02]

How do you stop it, though, without being authoritarian?

by campaigning against, as this conf / group is doing ..

 

[quimcunx]

Programme on BBC1 now.

 

[durruti02]

http://www.no2sharia.org.uk/

 

[jimadore]

Sharia law will put all woman rights' back into the dark ages',

 

[laptop]

Obviously it'd be Utopian to expect you to be interested in history or anything.

But anyway.

The Dark Ages were, of course, a phenomenon of Western Christendom.

They coincided with the time when the twin seats of civilisation, in the area between the Indus and the Atlantic, were... guess?


...the Muslim and Byzantine (that'd be Eastern Christian) empires.

And that'd be the time, too, when the most advanced expression of women's rights in any legal system anywhere in the world were, er... in Sharia law.

Since then, the world has changed around Sharia. But credit where credit's due, no?

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

March 7, 2009, North Terrace, Trafalgar Square, 3:30-4:30pm

Symbolic demonstration in support of one law for all in Britain and against religious based tribunals followed by a march to Red Lion Square from 4:30-5:30pm

March 7, 2009, 6:00-8:00pm, Conway Hall, 25 Red Lion Square, London WC1R 4RL

Public Meeting on Sharia Law, Sexual Apartheid and Women's Rights

Speakers include: Sargul Ahmad (International Campaign against Civil Law in Kurdistan Iraq head), Yasmin Alibhai-Brown (Journalist and British Muslims for Secular Democracy Chair), Naser Khader (Democratic Muslims Founder), Gina Khan (One Law for All Spokesperson), Kenan Malik (Writer and Broadcaster), Yasaman Molazadeh (One Law for All Legal Coordinator):Maryam Namazie (Equal Rights Now – Organisation against Women’s Discrimination in Iran and One Law for All Spokesperson), Pragna Patel (Southall Black Sisters and Women Against Fundamentalism founding member), Fariborz Pooya (Iranian Secular Society and Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain Chair), and Carla Revere (Lawyers’ Secular Society Chair).

Ban this rascist BNP convention!

Oh, hang on, the people involved are all actually from muslim backgrounds.

Must put the SWP lot in something of a quandary...

 

[durruti02]

Ban this rascist BNP convention!

Oh, hang on, the people involved are all actually from muslim backgrounds.

Must put the SWP lot in something of a quandary...

they are clearly dupes of the BNP! .. in a world of islamophobia and war on muslims, this campaign clearly plays into the hands of Bush and Blair!

 

[spring-peeper]

Not to Canada though, obviously, what with them having accepted Sharia into Canadian civil law years ago.
I hear it's a hotbed of hand-chopping and perve-stoning, nowadays.

eta: I googled it and all I could find was that Ontario said no to sharia law back in 2005 - could you help me find the links to when it was passed?

 

[ericjarvis]

I'm against this. The target is wrong. The law should allow any form of arbitration if both parties are agreed. ANY form. What the campaign should be about is changing how Sharia operates and making it less patriarchal. Likewise Beth Din.

The public meeting seems fine to me. The march worries me. It's too close to the Islamophobic agenda.