No more Brothers Cider at Glastonbury?

[moose]

I think I only had one pint of it last year - I couldn't face the huge queues of vomiting teenagers, nor the treacherous walk through the sea of muddy bottles. I made up for it Wicker Man, though, even though it's not Festival Strength there.

 

[William of Walworth]

No time for this properly, until later, and apols if this has already been said, but the new Gaymers monopoly ONLY applies -- I believe -- to the main Workers Beer Company tents.

Ie Cider Bus will still be there, Brothers Bar will still be there, Bimble Inn and Real Ale Tent (both managed independently of the WBC) will both still be there and will both be able to source their own choices of cider.

Of the above I am nearly sure ...

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Look, anyone believing that Brothers at Glasto is anything other than a potent fruity alcopop is fooling themselves. It's a (pear based) perry, like the only mass market perry of recent years, Babycham. I don't believe that there's any other relationship between the two brands though.

Perry's undergoing a bit of a resurgence really. It's tougher to make decent perry than cider apparently, although the stuff on sale at the Brothers Bar ain't going to pick up any awards. Good bang for your buck, but that's the best I can say about the stuff.

I don't see what's wrong with a potent fruity alcopop. Better than bloody Strongbow, or Gaymers, certainly.

It doesn't have to be "authentic", it just has to be bearable.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Babycham was invented by the Showerings brothers back in the 1950s who were the 'brothers' in the Brothers Bar. Babycham was/is a 'perry', that is to say a cider made from pears. The Showerings company has since been taken over by a company which is part of an multinational beer and wine importing company.

 

[JTG]

Given that neither Brothers nor Gaymers is in any way nice, I don't see the problem.

Gaymers is at least a local company (Irish cider is it firks?)

Yours
a cider lover

 

[DeadManWalking]

Last time I had brothers pear cider it was shite, half the strength it used to be and came in a 500ml plastic bottle, must have been at Bestival

 

[paolo]

Possibly just repeating what Aqua and other have said... there is nothing to suggest this anything other than a WBC contract, and that there is any impact for independant outlets (Cider Bus, Brothers Bar, Bimble Inn, etc).

Significant if, at WBC bars, you want to specifically buy Brothers, rather than Gaymers (or Burrowhill, last year). Otherwise business as usual.

(Maybe I'm feeling dismissive because, for me, 5% Brothers isn't 'all that' in the cider stakes.)

 

[Firky]

Given that neither Brothers nor Gaymers is in any way nice, I don't see the problem.

Gaymers is at least a local company (Irish cider is it firks?)

Yours
a cider lover

No it's not the best cider and I doubt I'd drink outside of Glastonbury but it is easy to drink when it is warm, when it is flat, when your body tells you should really be drinking water. I'd sooner have Brothers thn the other chemically brewed shite. Now you question if it is Irish I am not sure it is!

Give me old rosie's just no more than five pints as it is nearly 8% and gets you floored.

Yours,

A Passionate Ciderfarian.

 

[El Jefe]

Now you question if it is Irish I am not sure it is!

That's cos it's not.


Bulmers<<<< >>>> Gaymers

 

[JTG]

Gaymers is only based a couple of miles from Pilton

 

[paolo]

Gaymers is only based a couple of miles from Pilton

So the story could just as easily be titled "Glastonbury Switches to Locally Brewed Cider"... blah blah... environmental benefit... supporting the local economy.

 

[Tort]

Nah, it isn't babycham, just made by the same people (who are all brothers)

http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Brothers_Cider

That's my bloody photo on that link!!!!

 

[Tort]

Given that neither Brothers nor Gaymers is in any way nice, I don't see the problem.

Gaymers is at least a local company (Irish cider is it firks?)

Yours
a cider lover

Brothers is brewed in Shepton Mallet (as is Babycham). Maybe seeing as Brothers is available nationally it's all under the same corporate banner as Gaymers these days. It doesn't seem to taste the same anywhere other than Jazzworld though. Even the festival strength variety.

 

[JTG]

Brothers is brewed in Shepton Mallet (as is Babycham). Maybe seeing as Brothers is available nationally it's all under the same corporate banner as Gaymers these days. It doesn't seem to taste the same anywhere other than Jazzworld though. Even the festival strength variety.

I wasn't sure whether it was or not. Given that I avoid trendy cider/perry type drinks like the plague I've never had the chance to find out

Proper scrumpy type stuff or fuck it I'll just have Blackthorn. None of the shit inbetweeny stuff

 

[paolo]

That's my bloody photo on that link!!!!

Screengrab, then invoice, with additional fee for admin relating to unauthorised use. Payment due in 7 days.

If you're too busy, I'll do it for you, commission free. That's how much I hate photo stealing bastards.

 

[Sunray]

Strongbow is full of artificial sweeteners that tastes of chemicals. Gaymers isn't and I like it. Its ~1.40 a bottle in the shops, which helps. All good news.

The Perry that the brothers bar sells isn't top notch but is a reasonable brew IMO. For 7% and fizzy its still got a bit of sweetness. Perhaps they add sugar. I'm not up for undrinkably dry cider of any sort. Most perry's I've tasted at beer festivals are so dry they cave your head in.

Cider bus cider is quite rank and I can't understand why people drink it.

 

[Firky]

Cider bus cider is quite rank and I can't understand why people drink it.

HERESY!!!

 

[JTG]

They'll turn him back at the Somerset border for saying that

 

[Firky]

I can't remember what you mumbled to me about cider and somerset last year but I do recall the scent of apples in your breath and twigs in your hair. You looked like a big friendly bear that had binged on apples.

 

[Tort]

Screengrab, then invoice, with additional fee for admin relating to unauthorised use. Payment due in 7 days.

If you're too busy, I'll do it for you, commission free. That's how much I hate photo stealing bastards.

Not fussed tbh. They actually used the same photo on the Brothers MySpace page for a while.

 

[JTG]

It was probably my theory on how the west country could have conquered the world only we invented scrumpy and it kind of got put on the back burner. For a while. We're getting round to it, honest.

Either that or it was the one about scrumpy being proper hallucinogenic in the correct quantities.

Can't really remember tbh, I was quite severely off my toof

 

[Tort]

Cider bus cider is quite rank and I can't understand why people drink it.

I don't care what anybody says but there are very few brews available at any festival that can compare with a steaming pint of Burrowhills Hot & Spicy!

 

[El Jefe]

I agree. Not a big cider fan, but the spiced cider is the finest drink in the world.

 

[Looby]

Not fussed tbh. They actually used the same photo on the Brothers MySpace page for a while.

Even if you're not that bothered you could get paid in cider.

 

[Tort]

Even if you're not that bothered you could get paid in cider.

The thought did cross my mind last year

 

[William of Walworth]

Cider bus cider is quite rank and I can't understand why people drink it.

Because we're MAD!!!!!

Actually over the last two Glastonburies, I stopped drinking so much of Cider Bus cider -- it is very strong, and my own irresponsibility with it caused me to miss the Skatalites** on Friday night in 2004 ... since then, I've alternated it with beer from the nearby tent ... the moderate lifestyle

**even though I was THERE! at self

But as ciders go, I only like proper scrumpy (medium for preference) and only in fairly limited doses, and the chemical stuff like Strongbow not at all. Brothers is very acceptable but also dangerous at Festival strength ..... in fruitjuice form you can lose track of how much you have ...

I prefer that from the Bus though. And Wilkins cider, very locally produced, is even better if you can get hold of it.

 

[William of Walworth]

I don't care what anybody says but there are very few brews available at any festival that can compare with a steaming pint of Burrowhills Hot & Spicy!

It'll be too hot for that to sell very well this year ...

To be fair, it saved my life last year (and previous mudbath festivals/very chilly night festivals in dry years). For this lifesaving reasoon, the Hot and Spicey is a grand drink ...

 

[pennimania]

Because we're MAD!!!!!

Actually over the last two Glastonburies, I stopped drinking so much of Cider Bus cider -- it is very strong, and my own irresponsibility with it caused me to miss the Skatalites** on Friday night in 2004 ... since then, I've alternated it with beer from the nearby tent ... the moderate lifestyle

**even though I was THERE! at self

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mr mania wrote about that in his blog - Chimmie Teenager

 

[William of Walworth]

mr mania wrote about that in his blog - Chimmie Teenager

<daren't look >

 

[Sunray]

They should have have a 5 quid deposit on the plastic bottle or you can bring your own. The mountain of paper cups they used last year probably eclipsed any good they tried to do buy banning the bottles.