No go zone for DESI

[james_walsh]

I would doubt peaceful protestors are going to be imprisoned.
Protestors who hurl foul mouthed abuse at police officers are not being peaceful.

Sticks and stone , but words will never hurt me!

 

[cockneyrebel]

It was not the much hyped million though was it?
Although you have come up with few exceptions, as yet there has not been one shred of evidence for any more than a minority of the 48 million adults giving a monkeys fuck about protesting or protestors. Protest and demonstration very much a minority activity.

As said, biggest demonstration in the whole of Scottish history.

So in the last few years we've had by far the biggest demo in British history, the biggest demo in Scottish history, and numerous demos of 10s-100s thousands.

Using your logic no-one gives a fuck about anything. Not even 50% of people vote, so obviously no-one gives a shit about the government or politics. Only 7 million people are in unions, so fuck that.

You're an utter cynic and someone who the status quo loves having about.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

I would doubt peaceful protestors are going to be imprisoned.
Protestors who hurl foul mouthed abuse at police officers are not being peaceful.

I god I know!!! Damn those pesky foul words and damn those that hurl them.

 

[scott_forester]

Remind me of the prisoners you took last time round?

LOL

 

[Dilzybhoy]

LOL

That you just "got it"???

 

[cemertyone]

I can't believe I missed out on all the stuff we apparently get to do over there. I spent six months in that shithole (Basra actually does stink of shit) and never got to shoot a single civvie, never got to torture a single person, I never even got to headbutt an Iraqi baby. Where did I go wrong?

Well it started with you having no qualifications when you left school ...and then the old man telling you about his time in the army ( and your grandad chipping in about Dunkirk and all that bollocks) when you add in that supieriour British mentality thats fashionable at football matches etc etc...then your well on your way son....the rest is just down to your own ignorance....of that there`s nothing we can do.....

 

[Bigdavalad]

Well it started with you having no qualifications when you left school ...and then the old man telling you about his time in the army ( and your grandad chipping in about Dunkirk and all that bollocks) when you add in that supieriour British mentality thats fashionable at football matches etc etc...then your well on your way son....the rest is just down to your own ignorance....of that there`s nothing we can do.....

It's like you know me! The only things you got wrong are:

10 GSCEs (A to C) from one of the top schools in my area.

My dad's never been in the army - he's worked for the factory for 30 odd years

Neither Grandad was at Dunkirk - one was in the Desert Rats, the other the South Lancs and he didn't join up until 1942.

It's not a British mentality, we are superior.

Ignorance is bliss.

 

[tobyjug]

You're an utter cynic and someone who the status quo loves having about.

Just because I don't go about the streets waving banners and shouting slogans does not mean I don't protest.
I have two protests on the go at the moment. I won't bother you with in depth details, but both involve suddenly imposed restrictions on activities for no good reason. One I expect to win the other is 50/50 at the moment.

 

[cemertyone]

It's not a British mentality, we are superior.
Ignorance is bliss.

You see its an attitude like that that caused the Suez crisis...
And as far as i`m aware they give those Gcse`s out like sweets today.Where as ,like my time when the exams where PROPER exams with meaning attached to them...I take it you never got to go to University then???? pity it might have helped dis-abuse you of your notions of loftyness.....

 

[Bigdavalad]

You see its an attitude like that that caused the Suez crisis...
And as far as i`m aware they give those Gcse`s out like sweets today.Where as ,like my time when the exams where PROPER exams with meaning attached to them...I take it you never got to go to University then???? pity it might have helped dis-abuse you of your notions of loftyness.....

The Yanks caused the Suez crisis by threatening to freeze UK and French assets in the US. Without that, we'd have had Egypt beaten in days and there would have been no crisis.

I left school at 16 to join the Army, because that's what I wanted to do with my life. Why I'd have wanted to go to university, I don't know. Grow my hair and sit round drinking cider whining about how hard life is? No thanks.

And GCSESs are certainly easy - I did a grand total of 20 minutes revision for mine and passed them all.

 

[tobyjug]

but surely an activity engaged in by less than half the population is a minority activity?

Precisely.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

Any activity, I'd hazard a guess, would be a minority activity apart from the normal activities such as farting, sleeping, eating, shitting, breathing, walking and shagging.
You could say that watching football is a minority activity.
In fact voting is a minority activity.

 

[Bristly Pioneer]

So erm DSEi?

Where exactly is the exclusion zone?

 

[X-77]

Do you think that the Coalition could just wipe 60 innocent people out in a oner and get away with it?

60 whole innocents killed by the coalition?? no, that would never happen. What planet are you living on?

 

[Bigdavalad]

60 whole innocents killed by the coalition?? no, that would never happen. What planet are you living on?

Which isn't what I asked - Do you really think the British or US Army could wipe out 60 Iraqis without it being reported?

 

[Dilzybhoy]

Which isn't what I asked - Do you really think the British or US Army could wipe out 60 Iraqis without it being reported?

Well that would depend on who was allowed in to view the... erm... wipeout...
Given that the british and yanks control access then I don't really know what to think.
Do you really think that they would do it in front of an army of reporters?
Even if they did, do you think they would admit it?
Does it really matter?
What's the weather like on your planet?

 

[X-77]

Which isn't what I asked - Do you really think the British or US Army could wipe out 60 Iraqis without it being reported?

Yeah, Fallujah (for instance) was so well reported by our noble and honest media - how many civilians do you think were wiped out in that 'exercise'? Slightly more than 60. In fact, we don't hear about Iraqi civilians being killed by the coalition at all anymore, are you saying that it's not happening? I really don't know what you're on

To even suggest that resistance fighters could have killed more Iraqis than the US/UK armies since the start of this whole criminal mess is simply absurd and you are clearly living in denial.

 

[tobyjug]

To even suggest that resistance fighters could have killed more Iraqis than the US/UK armies since the start of this whole criminal mess is simply absurd and you are clearly living in denial.

Facts and figures please, as the insurgents and suicide bombers seem to be bumping off a hell of a lot more Iraquis than they are US or UK solidiers, if the daily TV news bulletins are anything to go by.

 

[X-77]

if the daily TV news bulletins are anything to go by.

if the daily 'news' bulletins are anything to go by the coalition haven't killed any Iraqis in a real long time. That's my whole point - they're not anything to go by.

 

[tobyjug]

if the daily 'news' bulletins are anything to go by the coalition haven't killed any Iraqis in a real long time. That's my whole point - they're not anything to go by.

You must have a source for your opinion, or is it just another of those all British soldiers are sadistic psychopaths rants backed up with fuck all.

 

[Bigdavalad]

You must have a source for your opinion, or is it just another of those all British soldiers are sadistic psychopaths rants backed up with fuck all.

Al-jazeera? The font of all 'truth' about the Middle East.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

You must have a source for your opinion, or is it just another of those all British soldiers are sadistic psychopaths rants backed up with fuck all.

I think that's the point he/she is making you thick twat.
We only hear the sanatised version from those that control...
Ahh fuckit why do I bother you fucking bigot?

 

[Dilzybhoy]

Al-jazeera? The font of all 'truth' about the Middle East.

 

[X-77]

Al-jazeera? The font of all 'truth' about the Middle East.

Fox News? BBC? The font of all 'truth' about the west

 

[X-77]

I think that's the point he/she is making you thick twat.
We only hear the sanatised version from those that control...
Ahh fuckit why do I bother you fucking bigot?

exactly. I can't believe that people could actually believe that if it's not on our media it's not happening. It's like they've never heard the words 'agenda', 'propaganda' or plain old 'media bullshit' before in their entire lives.. To believe that the resistance could cause death and destruction anywhere near to the scale of US/UK forces is quite simply naivety... but tbh I don't believe for a second the posters here arguing such absurdities believe it themselves.

 

[tobyjug]

I think that's the point he/she is making you thick twat.
We only hear the sanatised version from those that control...
Ahh fuckit why do I bother you fucking bigot?

If you really think the British gutter press could be gagged if atrocities were being commited by British armed forces you really must be cynical.

 

[Bigdavalad]

If you really think the British gutter press could be gagged if atrocities were being commited by British armed forces you really must be cynical.

Or from making them up with the help of a couple of twats from a Preston TAC if no handy atrocities take place of course.

Fox News? BBC? The font of all 'truth' about the west

I wouldn't trust Fox as far as I could throw them, but I don't watch any American news channels.
The BBC I would rate as being fairly reliable, but they're not perfect.

 

[Pickman's model]

If you really think the British gutter press could be gagged if atrocities were being commited by British armed forces you really must be cynical.

it would appear from a casual reading of the exploits of british forces in the second world war that 'our lads' never committed any atrocities. this would seem somewhat unlikely. & the same in korea, malaya, &c &c &c ad nauseam.

 

[tobyjug]

it would appear from a casual reading of the exploits of british forces in the second world war that 'our lads' never committed any atrocities. this would seem somewhat unlikely. & the same in korea, malaya, &c &c &c ad nauseam.

It rather depends if you have ever talked to people who were actually there as opposed to the historians view of it.
Allied troops after being confronted with what they saw on entering nazi concentration camps did in some instances go to the nearest German town or village and commit murders until they were stopped by officers.

 

[Pickman's model]

It rather depends if you have ever talked to people who were actually there as opposed to the historians view of it.
Allied troops after being confronted with what they saw on entering nazi concentration camps did in some instances go to the nearest German town or village and commit murders until they were stopped by officers.

but not british troops?