You've said that before to me aintcha!!!Bigdavalad said:FOAD you plastic provie waste of skin
You've said that before to me aintcha!!!Bigdavalad said:FOAD you plastic provie waste of skin
Oh sorry then... it must be a cliché.Bigdavalad said:Not that I know of![]()
We are judged by our words. Mmm?bigbawbag said:Pity he only managed to get 6 of the scum before he got out really. No indication in any of the stories that he was SAS (apart from the fact that every soldier who has ever served in NI is described as SAS in the papers).
Scots doing the Irish thing - whether it be Loyalist or Republican - is the saddest thing I can think of - is your culture that poor you have to pretend to be Irish FFS?
Dilzybhoy said:We are judged by our words. Mmm?
btw I'm suggesting that you've said it to me on another "forum".
And you know fine well what I'm on about.
Not that there's a difference between having an opinion on the national question in Ireland and "pretending to be Irish" or anything.Bigdavalad said:Well if you're judging that I despise terrorists and that I think Jocks that have to pretend to be Irish are fuckwits, then well done - you've got me pegged.

In Bloom said:Not that there's a difference between having an opinion on the national question in Ireland and "pretending to be Irish" or anything.![]()
That deaths are caused isn't an issue, the point was that the army doesn't recruit anyone with mental health issues, any hint of history of it puts you in front of a doctor for a long detailed interview on it if you're lucky, if not the army just waves goodbye.X-77 said:Oh well, silly me - all the Iraqis that have perished since 2003 much have just er ...spontaneously combusted, nothing at all to do with US/UK soldiers invading or anything.![]()
If you think that the media would ever show the shocking scenes that would be produced in the aftermath of coalition bombs Tobyjug, I'm afraid you are naive.
The majority of deaths over in Iraq are caused by US/UK forces and yet day after day we see insurgent bombings on the news and all the violence caused by them alone....hmm, wonder why no focus on coalition 'activity' or come to think of it, no focus on the fact that there wouldn't be any insurgency violence without us being there in the first place? No media spin there at all....
X-77 said:The majority of deaths over in Iraq are caused by US/UK forces and yet day after day we see insurgent bombings on the news and all the violence caused by them alone....hmm, wonder why no focus on coalition 'activity' or come to think of it, no focus on the fact that there wouldn't be any insurgency violence without us being there in the first place? No media spin there at all....
Thousands turned up last time and caused major disruption, thousands will turn up this time- exclusion zone or not.tobyjug said:The vast majority of demos announced on these boards only have a few men and a dog turn up to them. The anti-war demo was very much an exception.
Whilst protest and demonstration may be important to a few people with a lot of time on their hands, the reality is most of the population could not give a monkeys fuck about protesting and demonstrations unless it is a localised issue which directly effect them.
who said that was 'the point'?Bob_the_lost said:That deaths are caused isn't an issue, the point was that the army doesn't recruit anyone with mental health issues, any hint of history of it puts you in front of a doctor for a long detailed interview on it if you're lucky, if not the army just waves goodbye.
Now if you want to go off on a rant about iraq i don't really care, have fun, i'm just trying to clear up this point.
That has nothing to do with the conversation I was involved in. 
prove that the coalition has killed more people?Bigdavalad said:Can you actually prove that?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7906.htm01/28/05 "BBC" -- Coalition troops and Iraqi security forces may be responsible for up to 60% of conflict-related civilian deaths in Iraq - far more than are killed by insurgents, confidential records obtained by the BBC's Panorama programme reveal.
Official figures, compiled by Iraq's Ministry of Health, break down deaths according to insurgent and coalition activity. They are usually available only to Iraqi cabinet ministers.
The data covers the period 1 July 2004 to 1 January 2005, and relates to all conflict-related civilian deaths and injuries recorded by Iraqi public hospitals. The figures exclude, where known, the deaths of insurgents.
The figures reveal that 3,274 Iraqi civilians were killed and 12,657 wounded in conflict-related violence during the period.
Of those deaths, 60% - 2,041 civilians - were killed by the coalition and Iraqi security forces. A further 8,542 were wounded by them.
Insurgent attacks claimed 1,233 lives, and wounded 4,115 people, during the same period.
god how nice.Bigdavalad said:I spent six months in that shithole

silentNate said:Thousands turned up last time and caused major disruption, thousands will turn up this time- exclusion zone or not.
X-77 said:prove that the coalition has killed more people?
Apart from it being blindingly obvious that US and UK capability would have caused far more destruction and therefore deaths, the Iraq Ministry of Health revealed as much not long ago:http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7906.htm
god how nice.
Loki said:http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=british+army+abuse&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
1.4 million pages say you're not quite right there.
oneflewover said:Hi all,
This is a clearer search
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q="british+army+abuse"&btnG=Search&meta=
Then you should stop derailing this thread, it's gone from interesting and moderatly new material to you almost soley dragging it into the morass of "iraq bad" which we've heard a thousand and one times if you can't say anything on topic then don't say anythingX-77 said:who said that was 'the point'?That has nothing to do with the conversation I was involved in.
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If your happy seeing taxes spent imprisoning peaceful protestors then more fool youtobyjug said:If you say so, no wonder more prisons are being built.

silentNate said:If your happy seeing taxes spent imprisoning peaceful protestors then more fool you![]()
tobyjug said:I would doubt peaceful protestors are going to be imprisoned.

I saw them attempting to arrest someone on Critical Mass for putting his bike on the grasstobyjug said:I would doubt peaceful protestors are going to be imprisoned.
Protestors who hurl foul mouthed abuse at police officers are not being peaceful.


KeyboardJockey said:Wanna bet. That is not what I saw at Canning Town at the last Desi demo.![]()
oh get lost, I was responding to tobyjug who was trying to get away with saying that most protests are attended by 'two men and a dog' apart from 'pro-fox hunting' ones - typical you wouldn't moan about that though. And as if a thread about an arms fair isn't related to warBob_the_lost said:Then you should stop derailing this thread, it's gone from interesting and moderatly new material to you almost soley dragging it into the morass of "iraq bad" which we've heard a thousand and one times if you can't say anything on topic then don't say anything![]()

cockneyrebel said:tobyjug you say the anti-war protest was an exception. Well the the recent demo in Scotland against the G8 was attended by 200-300,000 people and was the biggest demo in Scottish history. Or was this another exception?
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tobyjug said:It was not the much hyped million though was it?
Although you have come up with few exceptions, as yet there has not been one shred of evidence for any more than a minority of the 48 million adults giving a monkeys fuck about protesting or protestors. Protest and demonstration very much a minority activity.