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No Direction Home - Martin Scorsese Bob Dylan documentary

Dubversion said:
anybody know what the Odetta song was in last night's episode? that was amazing
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And who was that nutter playing that lyre thing and singing in a really high-pitched voice with about 6 people leaning over him? Weird.
 
it's brilliant. Van Morrison doing Caravan in a powderblue jumpsuit (with highkicks) is in itself worth the whole movie :)
 
i've read the articles and books, listened to the bootlegs, but it's seeing this programme that makes me realise quite how fucking intense the opposition to Dylan's electrification was, how determined he was, how depressing it must have been to face that kind of ignorance... incredible stuff
 
hubby watched it and loved part one - ick!!!

part 2 is on tonight, but so is part one of the amazing race - he gets bumped.

meh - I'm going to watch the birth of a new municipal party tonight, so they can fight it out.
 
spring-peeper said:
hubby watched it and loved part one - ick!!!

part 2 is on tonight, but so is part one of the amazing race - he gets bumped.

meh - I'm going to watch the birth of a new municipal party tonight, so they can fight it out.
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I really do not understand any of that. :confused:
 
I watched part 2 but not part 1, due to having no clue it was airing until I realized my dad was watching it and I missed half. I liked it well enough, although it seemed to be the same people being interviewed, it's too bad Grossman died, I would have loved to hear what he had to say about Dylan. I'm glad they had some Ginsberg interviews. Dylan always managed to make me laugh in the way he treats people, he seems so rude yet oblivious to how rude he's being because he just seems to think that what he's saying is common sense or he's being asked a stupid question or he's curious about what he's being asked.

Okay, that was enough, I want to see part 1, no clue when it runs again though.
 
walktome said:
he seems so rude yet oblivious to how rude he's being because he just seems to think that what he's saying is common sense or he's being asked a stupid question or he's curious about what he's being asked.
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I don't think he was rude per se and I think he knew exactly what he was saying. When you actually listened to what those questions were they were totally ridiculous. 'Does your music have a subtle or obvious message' WTF??
The bloke was just writing songs about what he felt and was being asked totally pointless, and impossible to answer, questions. When he was just saying 'What do you think?' to that one reporter he was just turning the tables on the reporter to let him see how ridiculous his questions were. When it turned out that the reporter hadn't even heard him sing he was justifiably angry. And that Irish couple who were so rude to him yet still demanded autographs, I thought he was quite restrained with them. Maybe he was the first example of how we think we own people who perform in public. I couldn't understand people paying to go to his concerts just to boo :confused:

eta - I did think that Joan Baez had more to say than she actually said :D
 
I'm smitten. :cool:

by the man, (still not by his voice i'll admit)

I had an (ir)rational dislike of all things Dylan which stemmed from living at my mum's for a short time when my eldest son was born. she had a partner who played Dylan constantly and very loudly while my baby trying to sleep - grrr!

He was also a massive music snob & banged on about the worthiness of obscure music, hatred for all things 'pop' and would diss my reggae music as boring... :mad:

end result: hated him, hated his music. :o

I'm so glad I've caught this series - dead interesting and what a fab bloke (and a cutie to boot). I enjoyed the black & white footage of his more bluesy stuff but still don't like his voice so won't be rushing out to buy albums unless any of you can tell me an early-ish one? (not folky/acoustic)
 
Highway 61 Revisited would be a good place to start...

Anyone else see the covers show on BBC4 afterwards? That Lulu song was truly disturbing. Gave me nightmares last night.
 
I taped last night's instalment and only caught the end when I got in from the pub - going to sit down with it this evening. I was well impressed with part 1 and what I saw of last night's, though. Superb documentary. I really like the way dylan himself is coming across too.

Foo, if you ain't so keen on Dylan's voice, you could try one or two of his later albums? his voice is a lot deeper now, less nasal and more rasping, very powerful in places. The two acoustic/folksy albums of traditional songs he did around 1991/2 are both good IMO ( :p ): Oh Mercy (1989) is a great album, Love and Theft (2001) is very good too. IMo the best one - and my favourite album ever - is Time Out Of Mind, from 1997. Big, dark, bluesy sort of record. IMO it's nigh-on perfect: rorymac's something of a fan too. :D x
 
well if you and my man rors are fans, there's even more reason for me to get myself Dylan-ed :D

thanks for recommendations Roadie, i'll write those down. xx :cool:
 
Divisive Cotton said:
Yeah it was really spellbinding... I never even heard of her before.
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Incredibly powerful performer. I thought she was Sister Rosetta Tharpe (another powerful perfomer) till the caption came up..
 
Dunno if I'd recommend those..I'd go with Blonde on Blonde.

Actually my recommendation would be to buy the Bootleg series vol 1 - 3.. get abit of everything there.
 
Hollis said:
Dunno if I'd recommend those..I'd go with Blonde on Blonde.

Actually my recommendation would be to buy the Bootleg series vol 1 - 3.. get abit of everything there.
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I certainly didn't mean to knock the early albums! I was just thinking in voice terms - there's no getting away from the fact that his voice has dropped and become throatier over the years.

Tbh i'm not an enormous fan of that 'bootleg series' album. It's good, but it's got too much of the very early stuff on and too little from the later albums. I've got outtakes CDs from Infidels and Oh Mercy, and there's some awesome stuff on both of them, including a grogeous electric version of Blind Willie McTell. :cool:
 
madzone said:
I don't think he was rude per se and I think he knew exactly what he was saying. When you actually listened to what those questions were they were totally ridiculous. 'Does your music have a subtle or obvious message' WTF??
The bloke was just writing songs about what he felt and was being asked totally pointless, and impossible to answer, questions. When he was just saying 'What do you think?' to that one reporter he was just turning the tables on the reporter to let him see how ridiculous his questions were. When it turned out that the reporter hadn't even heard him sing he was justifiably angry. And that Irish couple who were so rude to him yet still demanded autographs, I thought he was quite restrained with them. Maybe he was the first example of how we think we own people who perform in public. I couldn't understand people paying to go to his concerts just to boo :confused:

eta - I did think that Joan Baez had more to say than she actually said :D
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I think that while he knew what he was saying, I think he was oblivious to the fact that this was what people expected of him, if you know what I mean. He was considered this folk star even though he didn't like calling himself folk and people wanted interviews and autographs and he didn't want to give anything, he just wanted to sing his songs, and seemed to want to get away with doing that without having any public interest.
 
Tbh I can fully understand why he got pissed off with the attention he got in the '60s, and was sometimes rude or uncommunicative. Like walktome says, he was being labelled as something he didn't consider himself to be, and people expected things of him that he wasn't prepared, or maybe even able, to deliver. Being booed every night must have been pretty depressing too.
 
Yeah the last 10 minutes or so when they were showing interview after interview/show after show etc bought home how you can get burnt out with the whole thing.
 
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