RenegadeDog said:
I heard it BEFORE it came out
Nirvana
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I heard it BEFORE it came out
Dubversion said:
Perhaps - but I would still say that for me, and a lot of people I knew, Nirvana was the doorway between the mainstream stuff we'd been into before, and getting into 'alternative' in general.
saucisson said:
Some of us were 13
Still think Bleach is their best. Listened to Bleach and Nevermind on a daily basis from 13 - 15. Those teenage years wouldn't have been the same without it, and of course, I would never have got into the Pixies or Sonic Youth or any of that, if I hadn't known they were influences.
Listening to it again, I do wonder if that incredible connection I felt had anything to do with Cobain being mentally still an adolescent himself...on the same wavelength and all that...a lot of it just sounds a bit like whinging now though. If I'd come to it later on, I don't think it would have had the same impact. Still, can any music ever impact on you like the first tunes you connect to as a teenager?
Yeah, I know what you mean. Whereas, I can still listen to say Daydream Nation and utterly love it, when I listen to Nirvana now it's more about nostalgia...
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Another old school Nirvana fan here. Bleach is their best, but I went off them after Nevermind, so I've only ever heard those two albums. They were great live, though you could see them get more and more bored with each tour. I saw them supporting Tad in, I think 1989, and they were awesome, but by the time I last saw them at Reading in 1992, they looked tired of it all. I was a raver by then, so wasn't too keen on that sound any more. Hated the bands that they influenced though, even Smashing Pumpkins. Just weren't punk enough for me. Best band on Sub Pop were Mudhoney. Don't really recall Afghan Whigs, but got the impression they were a bit 'soft' for my tastes
RenegadeDog said:
Now your talking....I love daydream nation in my all time top ten...I think thats why I get grumpy old man about it....daydream nation whips the shit out of anything nirvana ever did....rave about sonic youth instead....(problem is they are almost too prolific and the peaks are few and far between).
bollocks. Ultra vivid scene anyone?
Orang Utan said:
I think there was a lot less distortion and discord for the sake of it. Some of there stuff was visciously negative as well - probably the main reason I don't listen to them much now.
And it don't breathe and it don't bleed
It's locked its jaws and now it's swallowing
It's all a lie, it's nearly dead
It's in our hope, baby, it's in our bed
Way hey.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Well I never paid attention to these bands' lyrics - I just liked the noise they made
pretty much love every song nirvana ever did. too good for words. did i hear someone say smells like teen spirit is a bad song? one of the best commercial singles of the 90s surely. and nevermind was incredible even if the production was a bit glossy. on a plain? in bloom? come as you are?
awesome
And it don't breathe and it don't bleed
It's locked its jaws and now it's swallowing
It's all a lie, it's nearly dead
It's in our hope, baby, it's in our bed
<-- love those lyrics nick1181. think im gonna check out afghan whigs properly now.
awesome
And it don't breathe and it don't bleed
It's locked its jaws and now it's swallowing
It's all a lie, it's nearly dead
It's in our hope, baby, it's in our bed
<-- love those lyrics nick1181. think im gonna check out afghan whigs properly now.
Afghan Whigs were all sex and guilt and resentment and lust.. brilliant brilliant band, dripping in soul.. just phenomenal. must have seen them a dozen times, and even at the end, when Dulli was fucked on smack and they had too many musicians on stage, even then they were amazing
Gentlemen is probably the best album to start with, although Stavros rates 1965 higher i think.. Gentlemen is between their early albums when they were pretty much a kind of grunge band, and when they were turning into something quite different. The soul thing is important, they do have a kind of dirty funk quality and they were always doing soul covers live - Mayfield songs and the like..
Twilight SIngers, Greg Dulli's solo outfit, are fucking great too.
Twilight SIngers, Greg Dulli's solo outfit, are fucking great too.
Similar to my feelings in a way. I don't really like them very much, although I was far to young to know they existed when they were around. However, speaking retrospectively, it seems that a lot of the devotion of some fans stems from the ideology of Cobain as some sort of "tortured genius", and blowing your head off does kind of exacerbate this idea. It's happened with others too; Lennon over McCartney, 2Pac and Biggie, Richey Manic, even Elvis. Killing yourself, or at least dying seems like a very good way to sell a lot of records, because it adds a cheap romance to the story that the popular press can play with.
So crap for me.
(derail)
The first time I saw (or even heard of) The Afghan Whigs was at the Astoria 2 in London - Greg was just standing there with one spotlight shining on him from behind, smoking a cigarette and doing these Motown covers. I was utterly stunned (and I'm not really a huge motown fan) - I subsequently seem to have spent most of the 90s coming down off fairly serious drugs (at about 4am) and listening to The Afghan Whigs at full tit.
Thank fuck I don't do that any more. Still. Happy days etc.
The first time I saw (or even heard of) The Afghan Whigs was at the Astoria 2 in London - Greg was just standing there with one spotlight shining on him from behind, smoking a cigarette and doing these Motown covers. I was utterly stunned (and I'm not really a huge motown fan) - I subsequently seem to have spent most of the 90s coming down off fairly serious drugs (at about 4am) and listening to The Afghan Whigs at full tit.
Thank fuck I don't do that any more. Still. Happy days etc.
futha said:
And how often do bands on mainstream programmes like Johnathan Ross play stuff like that?
That's part of the reason I loved Nirvana, it was like, temporarily, 'we' had won, and we had a band that had got big without 'their' permission.
Anyway, you're all wrong. The best band/album of the 90s was the God Machine's "Scenes From the Second Storey".
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