Nick Clegg calls for mass civil disobedience on ID cards!

[Meltingpot]

I'd rather there weren't riots as this current government would just use them to clamp down yet further on our liberties. Peaceful civil disobedience is the way forward. If enough people refuse to co-operate, it won't work.

 

[goldenecitrone]

I'd rather there weren't riots as this current government would just use them to clamp down yet further on our liberties. Peaceful civil disobedience is the way forward. If enough people refuse to co-operate, it won't work.

Fuck that. I want burning police stations and politicians and royals being guillotined in the Mall.

 

[soulman]

I'd rather there weren't riots as this current government would just use them to clamp down yet further on our liberties. Peaceful civil disobedience is the way forward. If enough people refuse to co-operate, it won't work.

Or they might just ignore you. They have a track record of doing that.

 

[october_lost]

Trying to introduce ID cards will definitely be the biggest error since trying to introduce the poll tax. Expect rioting on a grand scale. Hopefully.

The state at a national and European level has passed dubious laws before which have been nothing more than curtailment of our liberties and a victory for big brother (CJA, Schegen), as with various other attempts it will either wait for diaster to implement or just simply target vulnerable groups (immigrants, convicts etc.) and move inwards. It will also try and normalise this process through passports, health care etc...Im guessing we are already a few steps further down the road than people realise.

I'd rather there weren't riots as this current government would just use them to clamp down yet further on our liberties. Peaceful civil disobedience is the way forward. If enough people refuse to co-operate, it won't work.

Surely our priorities are to spread resistance and keep the issue of tactics/stratergy pragmatic.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The state at a national and European level has passed dubious laws before which have been nothing more than curtailment of our liberties and a victory for big brother (CJA, Schegen), as with various other attempts it will either wait for diaster to implement or just simply target vulnerable groups (immigrants, convicts etc.) and move inwards. It will also try and normalise this process through passports, health care etc...Im guessing we are already a few steps further down the road than people realise.

If it were just the civil liberties I reckon most folks would just bend over and take it; it's the £100 fee for living in the country of your birth and claiming the services your taxes pay for that'll have people kicking off I think.

"It's just another stealth tax" etc...

 

[OurLastLament]

no2id

You righton treehugging fucking radical.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Fuck that. I want burning police stations and politicians and royals being guillotined in the Mall.

Yeah. They'll be clamping down on precisely fuck all if they're all dead

 

[Demosthenes]

The state at a national and European level has passed dubious laws before which have been nothing more than curtailment of our liberties and a victory for big brother (CJA, Schegen), as with various other attempts it will either wait for diaster to implement or just simply target vulnerable groups (immigrants, convicts etc.) and move inwards. It will also try and normalise this process through passports, health care etc...Im guessing we are already a few steps further down the road than people realise.


Surely our priorities are to spread resistance and keep the issue of tactics/stratergy pragmatic.

Exactly, there's loads of things you can't do without some id, - bank account, mobile phone, benefit claim, register with a doctor, (rent a house?- I suspect.)

So all that has to change for the government to get its way is for them to have the cooperation of the management of all agencies and companies that currently ask for ID in some form or other that they insist on seeing a proper new-style shiny ID card.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Exactly, there's loads of things you can't do without some id, - bank account, mobile phone, benefit claim, register with a doctor, (rent a house?- I suspect.)

Don't forget buying a packet of fags if you happen to look younger than 82

All this under 21 bollocks is clearly part of the ongoing master plan to turn Britain into communist Cuba without the oranges.

 

[october_lost]

All this under 21 bollocks is clearly part of the ongoing master plan to turn Britain into communist Cuba without the oranges.

 

[ska invita]

No, I reckon Labour's hands are tied on this because they've divvied up the contracts to big IT companies (who couldn't possibly cock it up could they?), so it would be very hard for them to back down now even if they wanted to.

lets pray that Browns half-wobble on id cards at PMQs yesterday is a genuine sign that he wants to back down from ID cards
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,,2238201,00.html

 

[invisibleplanet]

Every member of my family and all of my friends and acquaintances are intending to join mass civil disobedience. This amounts to approx. 250-300 people from all walks of life. This will be far greater than the poll-tax civil disobedience - I advise the government not to press ahead with this waste of taxpayers money. We already have enough ID cards - NINO, DVLA, Passport, NHS numbers, etc.

 

[ska invita]

On an old ID card thread I posted a link from a labour MP who accidently slipped up and said [paraphrase]"THere is no point resisting ID cards - the US is going biometric, and it's just a matter of time before we do to".

Just to back that up, the front page of the Guardian today has led with a story about how the FBI wants an international biometric database, and how its "allies" are signed up to the plan, named "server in the sky".

Have a quick read o this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/humanrights/story/0,,2241005,00.html
...a key plank in the Big Brotherish New World Order.

Naturally, someone in British government has given their approval to the US, hence ID cards. I wonder what US lapdog might have done that?

 

[ska invita]

New breaktrhough in facial recognition software, increasing the chance of CCTV cameras being able follow us about, and all that
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/25/research.sciencenews
...just a matter of 10-15 years before it is running with 99% accuracy.

... must be considered along side the ID card biometric database, and FIND, the National Facial Image Database
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_Images_National_Database

 

[SpookyFrank]

New breaktrhough in facial recognition software, increasing the chance of CCTV cameras being able follow us about, and all that
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/25/research.sciencenews
...just a matter of 10-15 years before it is running with 99% accuracy.

for the win

 

[untethered]

Or,

Hurrah!

 

[ska invita]