ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Including my Birthday Party-era fave "Big Jesus Trash Can". I loved hearing that song when I was on sulphate.
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds
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Including my Birthday Party-era fave "Big Jesus Trash Can". I loved hearing that song when I was on sulphate.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
IMHO it's only difficult if you let the dialect bother you!
Once I got past that, I found it was smooth sailing.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
No, it's more like a pelican.
What is wrong with me?
A severe lack of saveloys.
Voley
🐭
And he's comin inta MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Town!
And he drives a TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSH CAN!
I too have experienced the twin joys of this song and speed.
One listen to 'Let The Bells Ring' should dispel any thoughts about him not being a Christian. Such a good song I could almost believe in ole Jeebus meself.
Dwyer should perhaps read "And the Ass saw the Angel" to get a firmer grip on Cave's brand of no-nonsense Christianity.
I like a lot of what Nick Cave has done from 'Into My Arms' and onwards but the work I like best is from before 1996 or so, when - from what he says in interviews - he moved on from the Old Testament to the New.
Not sure if that means his earlier, Tanakh-based output should be considered Jewish music...
The brutality of the Old Testament inspired me, the stories and grand gestures. I wrote that stuff up and it influenced the way I saw the world. What I'm trying to say is I didn't walk around in a rage thinking God is a hateful god. I was influenced by looking at the Bible, and it suited me in my life vision at the time to see things in that way.
After a while I started to feel a little kinder and warmer to the world, and at the same time started to read the New Testament.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/feb/23/popandrock.features
Hollis
bloody furious
Yes he must be on form or summat at the moment.. I've also not really got him in the past..but was also awesome at Glastonbury.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
there's a great quote from a later interview, discussing his preference for the New over the Old, where he calls himself a 'real hammer and nails kinda guy' which is a lovely phrase, despite what it actually means.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
I watched him on Glastonbury (just on the telly like!) and it inspired me to buy his best of. It's good stuff. 
and my personal favourite
'I'd crawl over 50 good pussies just to get to one fat boy's asshole'
that's fucking poetry, man
I cracked up first time I heard it. I'm going to play it again now.
This thread has brought out the libertine in you phil
I've never seen you agree with people, learn something new, and laugh, all in the same thread. Actually, I've never seen you do any of those things individually, before
Are you speaking as a parent, yet?
I feel the same way about Janis
but differently, obviously, what with her not writing her own lyrics etc
except i was probably talking to myself
It's a conversion experience.
October 25 is the due date. But expectancy has probably mellowed me.
I suspect Cave must be in the most desirable position an artist can find himself in, as well: a loyal fanbase that aren't slavish but trust him to branch out (soundtracks, Grinderman, albums of piano ballads ) and can also write novels (#2 due this year), film scripts, act, etc without being perceived as a dilletante.
) and can also write novels (#2 due this year), film scripts, act, etc without being perceived as a dilletante. it's real interesting to watch I've seen you mellow all over the boards - well, the posts i've seen anyway
I suspect Cave must be in the most desirable position an artist can find himself in, as well: a loyal fanbase that aren't slavish but trust him to branch out (soundtracks, Grinderman, albums of piano ballads
and being alive, never forget the kudos of being a rock n roll hero, and still being alive
oh
and being alive, never forget the kudos of being a rock n roll hero, and still being alive
oh
right by here is the house he used to live in on Brixton Hill (that I nearly moved into) where they'd find him lying by the swimming pool with a needle in his arm every fucking morning
oh
really?
well, fancy
i would start a thread on how much he's improved with age, if i could be arsed. songs of innocence and experience. does he (i don't know cos i've not examined the lyrics of all he's done) touch on that? i think he does. but i don't think it's necessarily a blakean thing anyway, if he did
sorry. am pissed
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
If we had any sense we'd claim the whole lot, given how it fits with our supposed bent toward fatalism.I like a lot of what Nick Cave has done from 'Into My Arms' and onwards but the work I like best is from before 1996 or so, when - from what he says in interviews - he moved on from the Old Testament to the New.
Not sure if that means his earlier, Tanakh-based output should be considered Jewish music...
I suspect Cave must be in the most desirable position an artist can find himself in, as well: a loyal fanbase that aren't slavish but trust him to branch out (soundtracks, Grinderman, albums of piano ballads
Also, being the sort of artist one is likely to warm to as one gets over, probably a more mature fanbase than most
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I saw the Birthday Party half a dozen or so times, once at an all-dayer with (IIRC) Naked Lunch and some other post-"No Wave" types. Only seen the Bad Seeds thrice, and the first time was only because of Blixa Bargeld, as I was going through one of my "the lord thy G-d demands that thou shouldst only listen to industrial music" phases at the time.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Also, being the sort of artist one is likely to warm to as one gets over, probably a more mature fanbase than most
I think he's also got some of that Johnny Cash-like appeal, in that a lot of what he records spans genres, and can pretty much be relied on to "deliver". I know Geoff doesn't like Nocturama too much, but even that delivers.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
i can't quite believe you've heard so little but all the same, he was superb when we saw him live recently, brilliant music energising performance and didn't want it to finish.
so enjoy
He's also the only artist, thing or foodstuff that everyone on U75 has ever agreed on, which almost dwarfs his other achievements.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Every Cave fan in Brixton has 'almost' lived there....myself included.
Had to settle for Elm Park/Medora/Endymion/Craster Road (Lived on all of 'em) instead, but close enough.
I said to jefe on another thread, I was at reading in 1992 aged 16 and cave was on before Nirvana and I thought he was absolutely dreadful. I then heard the Birthday Party and much preferred them as they were closer to the stuff I was listening to especially Jesus Lizard. Now though I reckon it's time to properly get into his stuff, I think you have to be a bit older and worn out to like people like him. Perfect for me, then.
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