Nice Veg Dinners

[DRINK?]

thankme later

 

[Detroit City]

Does that come with a free Let It Be CD inside?

thankme later

 

[DRINK?]

dunno but think it is disgusting that they are making food out of her

 

[cesare]

This is outstanding:

http://urban75.org.uk/wiki/index.php5?title=Chesnut_Bourgignon_Pie

Easy to make too, so you can put a bit of effort into other courses.

I made that a couple of weeks ago, I didn't realise that it was on the wiki.

It's a brilliant recipe and you can play about with the types of mushrooms/pastry etc.

Definitely the one to go for, OU.

edit: you can buy those vacuum packed precooked chestnuts to cut the cooking time down, as well

 

[cesare]

Chestnut is disgusting. Thanks but not thanks

Oh

 

[subversplat]

Guinness and mushroom casserole?

Don't give the veggies Guinness, it's not suitable You can find alternate stouts here though.

I'm eyeing up a couple of recipes in this thread myself, although many are far too cheesy!

 

[Herbsman.]

http://veganbrum.wordpress.com/recipes/layerment/

http://veganbrum.wordpress.com/recipes/roasted-butternut-squash-soup/

http://veganbrum.wordpress.com/recipes/excellent-sausage-lentil-casserole/

http://veganbrum.wordpress.com/recipes/food-of-love/

since your mates are veggie you could be creative with the above recipes and add some cheese / milk / egg / whatever if you wanted to

 

[Detroit City]

Don't give the veggies Guinness, it's not suitable

why? cause they may get hammered and then decide to eat meat?

 

[cesare]

why? cause they may get hammered and then decide to eat meat?

Probably because Guiness isn't vegetarian, I think it contains that fish thing.

 

[Detroit City]

Probably because Guiness isn't vegetarian, I think it contains that fish thing.

i don't think so

 

[subversplat]

i don't think so

Read the link I posted, it's all explained there. Guinness is produced with isinglass which is the refined swim bladders of sturgeons.

 

[sojourner]

Read the link I posted, it's all explained there. Guinness is produced with isinglass which is the refined swim bladders of sturgeons.

Why the fucking fuck did anyone think to put fish bladders in beer??

 

[cesare]

i don't think so

I'm pretty sure it uses Isinglass in the production process, but I'm more than happy to be set straight if you know better.

edit: oops, subversplat's already said that

 

[subversplat]

Why the fucking fuck did anyone think to put fish bladders in beer??

It's fucked, isn't it. There was a push by the EU to get "Contains fish products" on all canned and pumped beer cleared wtih isinglass but, surprisingly as with anything else involving the brewing industry, it didn't go through.

 

[Detroit City]

It's fucked, isn't it. There was a push by the EU to get "Contains fish products" on all canned and pumped beer cleared wtih isinglass but, surprisingly as with anything else involving the brewing industry, it didn't go through.

well its a good thing they not using bull's testes

 

[Herbsman.]

Why the fucking fuck did anyone think to put fish bladders in beer??

Same reason people thought to nick cow's skin to wear on their feet - it works really well and it stops things from going to waste.

There are plenty of other stouts suitable for veggies/vegans - IIRC Sam Smiths are fined with seaweed. All of Bateman's bottled beers are vegan too

 

[tarannau]

Not really. It's good that we use all bits of any animals that we consume in my book. And isinglass is a fantastically good way of clearing beer.

 

[subversplat]

Not really. It's good that we use all bits of any animals that we consume in my book. And isinglass is a fantastically good way of clearing beer.

If we were talking trouts or mackerel here, I'd broadly agree even though I'd still abstain, but the sturgeon industry is one of the most wasteful and overexploited marine fishing trades one is.

 

[sojourner]

And isinglass is a fantastically good way of clearing beer.

I wonder how that was discovered?

 

[tarannau]

Probably the way that someone found that fermenting some grains made a good intoxicating liquor.

 

[ringo]

I wonder how that was discovered?

Archaeologists think most of these things were discovered by accident. When I was a digger I used to come across this sort of thing in background texts and experimental archaeology. Usually something got left to rot and changed chemically, or something got dropped into a bucket of something and someone else ate it.

I s'pose the obvious example is putting sugar in rotting vegetation somehow and the results fermenting and turning into alcohol. It was discovered in isolation in prehistory by every human group ever studied, as far as I know.

 

[ringo]

 

[sojourner]

Probably the way that someone found that fermenting some grains made a good intoxicating liquor.

Yeh but you can see easily how that might have worked


But accidentally gutting a fish, slipping its bladder into the fermenting beer, not noticing, THEN finding that it cleared the beer - nah, doesn't make sense

 

[Orang Utan]

Anyway, veggie dinners, not some stupid little fish that ended up in beer.......

 

[ringo]

They probably would have experimented with all sorts of things which they had access to. No telly = lots of time.

 

[tarannau]

If we were talking trouts or mackerel here, I'd broadly agree even though I'd still abstain, but the sturgeon industry is one of the most wasteful and overexploited marine fishing trades one is.

Eh? You been in a time machine or something?

Traditionally it was sturgeon, but isinglass hasn't been derived from that fish for a couple of centuries iirc, at least in Blighty and Europe. Much cheaper to use the waste from the cod industry over here.

 

[subversplat]

Anyway, veggie dinners, not some stupid little fish that ended up in beer.......

Yeah sorry for the derail, just don't serve Guinness to the veggies

 

[Orang Utan]

Yeah sorry for the derail, just don't serve Guinness to the veggies

I don't think they'd mind about that - one of them loves his beer and cheese, despite wearing veggie shoes.

 

[tarannau]

Yeh but you can see easily how that might have worked


But accidentally gutting a fish, slipping its bladder into the fermenting beer, not noticing, THEN finding that it cleared the beer - nah, doesn't make sense

I think scales work pretty well too. A fish scale falling in a big flagon of beer would have probably had an immediately impressive effect. The bladder thing woluld have followed logically, obviously.

 

[sojourner]

I think scales work pretty well too. A fish scale falling in a big flagon of beer would have probably had an immediately impressive effect. The bladder thing woluld have followed logically, obviously.

Hmmm...not convinced, but must apologise to OU for so completely derailing his veggie dinner thread that even I forgot what this thread was about