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NF attack on Manchester Pride-please help

Wankers - If I was closer I would be there.

Would be good to get as many people out as possible if they are close enough.
 
Bushell never wrote for Bulldog.
There are no 'nazi' friendly pubs, every time either the NF,WNP or BNP have met in a pub they have never been booked again.
Bulldog had nothing to do with City supporters.You will find that you had both Man Utd and Man City supporters amongst both the fash and the antifash in the 70s,80s and early 90s.
Yes I expect some people who get in the back of some cabs and drink in some pubs have some racist views .

Have you ever actually come across any of the fash locally??
 
taffboy gwyrdd said:
LLETSA

I posted the stuff becuase I thought it was useful and pretty reliable info.



That's the point-it wasn't really info at all. You said yourself that it was merely hearsay.
 
Heigh-ho Silver!

MC5 said:
I would be interested to know if you have ever been involved in anti-fascist activity?



1980-91 (ish) was the period during which I was active on the left. Like most people, I was involved in lots of different activities, but whenever the issue of fascism came to the fore then anti-fascism became a priority.

But I see you're on your high horse (once more) because of what I say in this thread. And you are right if you suspect that I would not have been there. Why? Because, first and foremost, the NF are, these days, a joke organisation; the main threat it represents seems to be, if recent happenings are anything to go by, to the people that get involved in it. What they actually say and do doesn't matter all that much. Secondly, these kind of activities are only of any relevance to the participants: the NF can stand behind their police guardians and grimace and gurn self-righteously, and hypocritically, about moral degeneration, while the UAF crowd can bleat at them through megaphones from behind their own police guardians. Meanwhile, the bemused shoppers will mostly wonder what the bleedin' 'ell it's all about. As for the 'threatened' gay community, I doubt that, in the tens of thousands in which they participate in the Manchester event every August, they would have been all that intimidated by a dozen or two socially inadequate boneheads.

As it happens, Mrs LLETSA and I were in Manchester on Saturday. However, the UAF demo was off our list of priorities, as she went off to visit my old mam and I went to watch City march on towards Champions League glory, joining her and some old mates for a drink later before getting the train home.

I notice that you, MC5, are in the vanguard of those who are keenest on demanding to know an individual poster's level of activity-as if what they say in their posts is dependent in any way on what they actually do. You ought to remember that this is simply a forum for debate, where all that matters is what a poster says, nothing else. And whereas certain posters can be interesting when they relate anecdotes about their political activities, these carry most power when they are there to reinforce political points, and then only when they make it clear that the poster must indisputably have been present at the event to which they refer. You, however, are among those whose references to their own activities are only ever in the vaguest terms-and completely unverifiable.
 
LLETSA said:
But I see you're on your high horse (once more) because of what I say in this thread. And you are right if you suspect that I would not have been there. Why? Because, first and foremost, the NF are, these days, a joke organisation; the main threat it represents seems to be, if recent happenings are anything to go by, to the people that get involved in it. What they actually say and do doesn't matter all that much. Secondly, these kind of activities are only of any relevance to the participants: the NF can stand behind their police guardians and grimace and gurn self-righteously, and hypocritically, about moral degeneration, while the UAF crowd can bleat at them through megaphones from behind their own police guardians.


You are a prize prick!
 
Exosculate demonstrates his grasp of irony

exosculate said:
You are a prize prick!



Staggering political insight. Worthy of certain anarchos who frequent these boards.
 
exosculate said:
You are not worth responding to.


Its one thing to think its an irrelevance to turn up at something like this. To go out of your way to say how one knows so much better than everybody else with a smug, pompous, patronising and superior I know better because I'm so much cleverer than you type approach is utter condescending bollocks.
 
I can see the tabloid headlines now: -

Anti-fash thread in descent into willy-waving shocker

*gets coat*
 
exosculate said:
Its one thing to think its an irrelevance to turn up at something like this. To go out of your way to say how one knows so much better than everybody else with a smug, pompous, patronising and superior I know better because I'm so much cleverer than you type approach is utter condescending bollocks.



Never went out of me way-I was sitting right here.
 
exosculate said:
You are not worth responding to.



But you did respond. With a load of old nothing, maybe, but it was a response.

If you have nothing to say to me, how about enlightening us with your own opinions? Or do you prefer to indiscriminately cheer on every Trot routine in the name of anti-fascism, regardless of their effectiveness?
 
LLETSA said:
But you did respond. With a load of old nothing, maybe, but it was a response.

If you have nothing to say to me, how about enlightening us with your own opinions? Or do you prefer to indiscriminately cheer on every Trot routine in the name of anti-fascism, regardless of their effectiveness?


I responded to myself, for the benefit of others, with a whole lot of something about your unbearable superiority complex. I don't cheer on any 'group' I believe countering fash demos is valid. I believe you to be clueless. Probably right wing too.
 
Bingo!

exosculate said:
I believe you to be clueless. Probably right wing too.



When you get accused of being right-wing then you know you've arrived.

It's been a long time coming.
 
exosculate said:
I responded to myself, for the benefit of others, with a whole lot of something about your unbearable superiority complex.



You responded to me before that-and then claimed I wasn't worth responding to. (Not that I care.)
 
For somebody who accuses others of cluelessness....

exosculate said:
I I don't cheer on any 'group' I believe countering fash demos is valid.



Care to expand on this statement?
 
exosculate said:
More pompousity. Keep going.



Asking somebody who has criticised you for what you're saying-without actually explaining why they disagree-to come forth with his opinion is hardly pomposity, tovarisch.
 
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