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Newsnight, Thursday night: the big immigration debate

treelover said:
Pigeon, you are in very small minority then...
Quantify "very small minority", please.
...yet the arrogance you and the other no borders people on here display is breathtaking...
And your carping condescension and tedious yapping about "the left" isn't?
...and Spion with his racist smears can fuck right off.
He hasn't said anything that a rational person would label "racist".
What he said is that you might be holding a "send them back" sign. That's not racist, it's insulting.
 
Not going to watch the Newsnight, but it would be nice to see the system get the kicking it so richly deserves (given that it facilitiates criminality, seemingly only deports those people who are actually claiming asylum, and is massively and needlessly long-winded and overbureaucratic). Those are the reasons why the likes of the BNP, and other racists, are able to use it to their advantage.
 
Alex B said:
I am pretty sure that the debate will conclude that immigration is either a national scandal that is undermining everything we hold dear, or that it is turning Britain into a magical happy wonderland of diversity. I mean, it's got to be one of those.

The bit I heard certainly swung between those POVs.

They didn't really answer the Immigration Watch guy about his figures relating to 6 billion added to the economy. Which as he had it. Was only proportionaal to the numbers of migrant workers in question. Well an answer was offered. but it was a bit fluffy.
 
xenon said:
The bit I heard certainly swung between those POVs.

They didn't really answer the Immigration Watch guy about his figures relating to 6 billion added to the economy. Which as he had it. Was only proportionaal to the numbers of migrant workers in question. Well an answer was offered. but it was a bit fluffy.

Wasn't that cunt green was it ? migration watch routinely base their conclusions on fictitious information.

http://5cc.blogspot.com/2007/10/still-worried-about-professor-coleman.html
 
It reaffirmed my belief that most people are just spectacularly misinformed and this is tinged with a bit of good, ole British xenophobia. But that's not news.
 
treelover said:
the producer is promising all views will be heard, i think it is going to be revealing and uncomfortable for many
Well, was it 'revealing and uncomfortable'? If it was, I miseed that bit

Was a little surprised at some of the poll results being more even than I expected
 
Send 'em all back, and send everyone who complains about JSA to Denmark and Sweden where they have proper generous welfare states is what I say.

Except for the Poles. They're alright.
 
kyser_soze said:
Send 'em all back, and send everyone who complains about JSA to Denmark and Sweden where they have proper generous welfare states is what I say.

Except for the Poles. They're alright.

Had enough of the Aussies, then? :(
 
Shit! It must be in my genes - my ancestors were Huguenots, an early form of economic migrant, altho they were also fleeing persecution so could also be called genuine asylum seekers. Worked hard once they got to the UK as well...hmmm...
 
Ned Pointsman said:
Wasn't that cunt green was it ? migration watch routinely base their conclusions on fictitious information.

Course it fucken was! It's mandatory to have that rentaquote gobshite on any TV or radio programme where immigration's mentioned. He fucks with taboos and asks Unconfortable Questions, donchaknow.:rolleyes:
 
RenegadeDog said:
And what happens when there aren't houses for all the x million people who come in? :confused:

Does the existence of immigration controls now guarantee the provision of decent, adequate housing for those migrants in the UK now? Or for anyone else, for that matter? I had no idea.:rolleyes:
 
treelover said:
ah, the pack are out with their racist smears, do one will you, its only on here that you can that, debate is needed...

What "racist smears", you fucking drama queen? My, you've really shown your true colours haven't you? I'm willing to bet that you wouldn't know racism if it came up and smacked you in the gob. Moreover, you're the sort of person who would be prepared to ignore it, if you did encounter it.

As for "debate" it is obvious that only one side wants to be heard: yours. Anyone else is shouted down or treated to some half-arsed, half-baked nonsense about "racist smears".
 
I'm still waiting for these unfomfortable and previously unknown facts that Treelover is going to list for us, but I think he's not going to return to this thread after his fucking stupid OP
 
Spion said:
I'm still waiting for these unfomfortable and previously unknown facts that Treelover is going to list for us, but I think he's not going to return to this thread after his fucking stupid OP

Aye, he won't be back. If he does return it will be to churn out some bad prose for our benefit. ;)
 
ViolentPanda said:
Quantify "very small minority", please.

And your carping condescension and tedious yapping about "the left" isn't?

He hasn't said anything that a rational person would label "racist".
What he said is that you might be holding a "send them back" sign. That's not racist, it's insulting.

no it is not insulting .. it is however dim / stupid / ignorent / idiotic / thick etc etc ..
 
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