Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by editor, Jan 9, 2019.
Pricey but damn good.
Technics has revealed the price of the new SL-1200 MK7
Technics SL-1200/SL-1210 MK7 price and release date confirmed
And a bit more detail
Technics relaunches legendary DJ turntable with SL-1200 MK7
Fairly pricey, you can get a couple of Mk3 1200s on eBay for around £800 but I'm sure this will equally, if not more so appeal to a non-DJ crowd with cash to burn looking for a credible turntable.
It's a pretty good investment for any pro/serious DJs too.
Sure, but are not most DJs nowadays putting their cash into traktor/laptop setups?
ETA - not saying there won't be many who'll be up for this. But the market has surely changed a lot in the last 15 years.
Still plenty electing to stick with vinyl!
I think vinyl djing is just for the 40+ crowd now - I don't know any younger DJs who bother with it, and on the occasions I've DJ'd in the past 5 years it's been getting increasingly difficult to rely on a vinyl setup being available.
This price tag is aimed at the 40+ crowd too I guess...
I see plenty of DJs under 40 playing on vinyl.
I'd like to see some data (I can't find any I trust), but the impression I get is that vinyl is a very negligibly used format for DJs now, outside of certain specialist musics (northern soul etc). The techno DJs I know sometimes use turntables, but mostly with timecoded vinyl to control a digital setup.
Oh OK. Ignore what I said and go and find some data that states that "vinyl djing is just for the 40+ crowd," then. I must have imagined it.
We have differing experiences is all (maybe london is different?), and it's a question I'm interested in and would like to know more about. what's your beef?
Both of those DJs seem to be using timecoded vinyl so they can use the decks as a controller for a digital setup - Either way, scratch djs are definitely specialists - the turntable is an instrument for those guys, rather than something to play music on.
trying to do an upfront techno set on vinyl when new 12"s are £10 a pop is not very practical.... it does kind of exclude everyone who either doesn't have a well paid job or isn't already getting sent loads of records for free.
Pah, they're practically pensioners.
Yeah, got to have something to mix your newly pressed Beatles and Bowie records on
Totally agree though. northern soul, reggae, some disco purists, some oldskool junglists and odd techno nutters are just about keeping vinyl alive "out", but its massively driven by older people who were there or there abouts at the time. yeah new music vinyl is getting pressed and hip kids think its cool but all the main club circuit djs are mp3 these days and most of the lower league ones are too. If its about new music then its going to be mp3 97% of the time i reckon.
tbf its always been expensive - IIRC 12s were £5/£6 (US imports) in 1990...£10 is actually cheaper in terms of infaltion according to this Historical UK inflation rates and calculator
...keeping up on records wasnt for everyone back in the day either thats for sure...
Raves were often £10 / £15 / £20 + too! a lot of money. Thats why i love pirate radio so much. Would've been fucked without that.
I'm totally serato/mp3 converted these days, love being able to own and play so much music Id never be able to buy otherwise...it feels bottomless. Still buy the very odd bit of vinyl, but only if I cant get the mp3 of it tbh.
Based on that infaltion calcuator £900 worth of deck today is equivalent to £380 in 1990, so I think even that price is pretty equivalent suprises me
I'm under 40. Still play vinyl
not that much under 40 though
id say 34 is about the cut off age!
hopefully this will knock down the second hand prices a tad as people can't harp on about how they're not in production any more.
I play a *lot* of 80s stuff and struggle to find digital copies of the tracks I want. discogs all the way. I would still digitalise the vinyl to use with a serato set-up, technics is the best format IMO.
I think that counts as 'specialist' moody.
I DJ with vinyl because the vast majority of my collection is on vinyl, and I mostly play old records. If I was djing new music I'd play digital though (or off walkmans, depending what new stuff)
vinyl is the most tactile format
I've got no time for "vinyl sounds better" wankers, tbh. I know it doesn't. But it sounds good enough, and it's more fun. Simple as that.
CDs/mp3s just aren't as good an experience to DJ, IMO.
For the punter, they don't care. They'd probably rather a digi DJ as it's easier, so there's fewer fucked up mixing, and the quality is better. But for me, as a DJ, I prefer to use vinyl.
What actually does sound better than vinyl though? FLAC files? WAV? What's the audio pureist's format of choice?
FLAC files will sound identical to the WAV files that they were created from. FLAC is more useful than WAV, as it supports standard tags and takes up less space. Assuming at least 16bit 44.1khz, then both are superior to vinyl.
FLAC is something I've never much dabbled with. Mainly because of space. Do you think most people would recognise the difference from a 320kbps Mp3?
Serato/Control Vinyl best of both worlds
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