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wiskey said:
oh dear i think you're going to have to educate me on greggs :(
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Sadly, there’s not much to surprise you on Greggs. They’re a company which has grown massively by industrialising baking practices, deskilling most of their workforce, subsequently paying lower wages and serving shite food of lamentable quality. And their efforts have helped kill off a whole variety of neighbourhood bakeries, which simply can’t compete with such ruthless prices and practices.

Greggs stores don’t really bake things; they take part-baked products and reheat in store. Cheaper for them of course, but the worse-tasting bread goes stale considerably faster.

And – as reassuringly nasty as their pasties and pies are – they contain the kind of meat slurry that Farmer Giles would hesitate to feed to sick animals.
Strangely enough, I actually braved a pie from a well-respected bakery chain in Bolton, close to the pie-paradise that is Wigan. Same price, but the thing actually had chunks of real meat and proper flavours in it. I was genuinely impressed – I guess Greggs has become so pervasive a chain down South that it’s difficult to remember other options as the norm…

:(
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
Greggs - experts at making cheese on toast look like absolute shite :D
And taste that way too. Amazing, really. How can you fuck up cheese on toast? Apart from by calling it 'pizza', I mean?

I admit, though, very occasionally, if I have a really bad hangover, I will go for the drastic Greggs sausage roll/cheese and onion pasty cure. There is nothing quite like it.
 
IntoStella said:
And taste that way too. Amazing, really. How can you fuck up cheese on toast? Apart from by calling it 'pizza', I mean?


Forgot about that bit. Once saw a guy in the Brixton one (was desperate for a loaf of bread :o ) who didn't speak any English. Kept asking the woman what the cheese on toast was and she kept telling him it was pizza. He just kept looking at her confused :D

I think their sausage rolls are absolutely vile (although I too have had the very rare one) :o
 
Whateve your view on Greggs, I was impressed with their complaints service.
A colleague wrote to them after a disappointing experience with their products:
"Good morning.

A particularly interesting item of Greggs packaging was brought to our attention recently. The item appears to be packaging used to house your pasties. It reads, "A variety of delicious fillings strategically scooped inside, concealed in a bubbling envelope of heat expanded pastry layers."

This was intriguing enough to warrant the purchase of two of your pasties, and so imagine my surprise and then utter disappointment, when I discovered the following descriptive anomalies. The only bubble in evidence, relative to your 'bubbling envelope' was in fact my bubble of anticipation that had very quickly burst upon the unveiling of a pasty that was more reminiscent of a cold, soggy, floppy mess than that of the promised, 'heat expanded pastry layers'. I can only assume, or maybe hope, that your use of the word 'bubbling' by way of description of the pasty, is an attempt to be reflective of the supposed heat that the pasty should be exuding, rather than that of the liquid content, which I fear played a major role in turning both of these pasties into the unfortunate cold, soggy, floppy mess, that I described earlier.

I would also like to draw your attention to your descriptive use of the, 'strategically scooped' fillings. It has always been my belief that a strategy is something involving great skill and planning, and therefore 'strategically' is relating to that fact. I find it very hard to believe that it would be company policy to 'strategically' place your 'variety of delicious fillings', in and around the inside of your cardboard packaging, as well as 'strategically' oozing out of various design faults (holes) in it's surrounding 'envelope', resulting in a very sticky, messy and altogether unenjoyable culinary experience.

My belief is that this packaging may be dangerously close to contravening the 1978 amendment to the Trade Description Act.

The only reassurance I feel I can honestly take from this unwholesome dining incident, is that at least as I begin to head towards old age, there at least exists a food stuff in this world that does not require the possession of any teeth to enable consumption, and therefore prolong my survival.

Yours sincerely,

J****.


J**** *****
Ridiculous Packaging and Consumer Complaints Section"

He received the following reply:
"J****,

Thank you for your eloquent comments regarding our packaging of savouries.
Please accept my apologies that our product so obviously did not meet your expectations.

All of our savouries are freshly baked throughout the day in our shops and at the time of purchase they should still be "oven fresh" and ready to eat. I can only apologise again that on this occasion we failed.

I do take heart from your last paragraph regarding your comment "as I begin to head toward old age" that at least you saw some benefit (tongue in cheek though it may have been) from our product.

I do hope that you will try our products again and as a gesture of goodwill I have sent some Greggs vouchers to your work address for you attention.

Regards

Trevor"
Enclosed was 20 odd quid in vouchers. :eek: :D
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
I think their sausage rolls are absolutely vile (although I too have had the very rare one) :o
But somehow the memory/idea of them keeps us crawling back for more. How do they do that?
 
IntoStella said:
But somehow the memory/idea of them keeps us crawling back for more. How do they do that?

I know. I reckon it's a special meat; perhaps derived from free-range Brixton crack squirrel. They're certainly strangely moreish for no apparent reason...

Sometimes your body craves a nasty Greggs pasty for no logical reason, often when accompanied by the mother of all eye-squinting hangovers. They're nasty, but in a comfortingly nasty way.

Guilty pleasure mind, they're every bit as disasteful a company as McShite or KFC. Arguably with worse quality food and with a more disturbing effect on the average UK high street.

Bloody evil sausage rolls...
:mad: ;)
 
I don't mind Greggs pasties - as far as rubbish food goes, it's rubbish food that I don't mind eating, sometimes....

As for Subway. I've never eaten one. I know they make the sarnies in front of you, but their shops turn my stomach. I don't know what it is about them, I'm not brave enough to try one.
 
Bob said:
Plus Judy's Devine. So I'd have the option of fried chicken or pies. :cool:

Judy's Divine is a godsend at 1am when the only other option is a trip to KFC.

"Gravy on the rice?"
"Yes please!"

:)
 
ok so greggs are bad because they undermine the local bakers - not because they are anywhere near mcdonalds in horribleness.

i eat their sandwiches at work because they taste nicer than sainsburys crap.

but i'm sorry - what sort of freak expects a bakers to sell them good cheese on toast!!! :eek:

to me greggs is not a bakers its a sandwich shop.
 
wiskey said:
ok so greggs are bad because they undermine the local bakers - not because they are anywhere near mcdonalds in horribleness.
to me greggs is not a bakers its a sandwich shop.

Sadly they boast of being 'Britain's biggest bakers' and tend to promote themselves in that way.

The way that Greggs treat their staff, and the way they market their food - think meal deals of high fat food, crisps and drinks - is no better than McDonalds. And there's little of the (cover up) corporate responsibility guff or charity dosh that McDs offers either.

Greggs pasties and McDonalds burgers are roughly on a level for me: unnatural, outwordly foods which are a once in a while guilty 'treat'...

:o
 
Greggs is shit, but I have a weakness for their cheese and onion pasties... :( I try not to, but sometimes I just can't resist... even worse since they apparently won't publish the nutritional contents...so they probably do have 1,568 calories each... :(

And Subways... well doing weightwatchers put me on to them.. since you can actually get a sandwich that is relatively low in fat and calories if you're veggy as they have an impressive array of vegetables and gerkiny type things that they can put in there...

But I don't really want to see one in Brixton.. I can get my impressive array of veg at the market and make a sanger at home....

If a Starbucks does arrive I may well cry... :(
 
tarannau said:
and the way they market their food - think meal deals of high fat food, crisps and drinks -
eg the 2 pound "meal" deal: 2 sausage rolls, a donut and a bottle of coke. I like Subways however.... but i'm not proud of that.
 
I can't say I've ever bought a freshly made sandwich in Brixton, where does good ones? How are the Phoenix's?

I used to enjoy Subway when they first came to the UK. The franchise has exploded so much now that service and product has dropped enormously. I stopped going when a manager came out and made one of the servers remove some bacon from my sandwich because she had put too much in!? :eek:
 
My god u lot are snobs. Subway's much better than any other fast food place out there. 1.99 for a huge, quite tasty sandwich ain't bad.

Had no idea they were owned by Macca's, but who gives a fuck. So is Pret, do u hate that too?
 
Yes, I do - I hate all those chains for the aforementioned reasons. It's not snobby to dislike shit food. Subway and Pret sell rank food dressed up as quality gourmet fare. I buy sarnies from Joes on Horseferry Road (never needed to buy any in Brixton cos I live there) - it's independent, cheap, generous with fillings and they make the tastiest sandwiches in London.
 
gabi said:
My god u lot are snobs.

that's not a very sensible comment, is it? giving a fuck about what you eat isn't snobbery.

gabi said:
Subway's much better than any other fast food place out there. 1.99 for a huge, quite tasty sandwich ain't bad.

it is if you can pay the same for a huge tasty sandwich from a local café with decent ingredients and helping a local business survive


gabi said:
Had no idea they were owned by Macca's, but who gives a fuck. So is Pret, do u hate that too?

i give a fuck. so do lots of others. they only actually have a small share in Pret (30%?) but it's enough to demonstrate that Pret's much-touted healthiness is just economic expediency.

as it is, i've eaten Subways once or twice when i've been in the West End and in a hurry, and it wasn't that bad, but i don't make a habit of going there and i certainly don't want one in Brixton when there are lots of other - better - options.

feel free to eat there, but don't accuse people of being snobs because they choose not to
 
I wasn't accusing people who choose not to eat at Subway of snobbery. It's the people on this thread who hold their nose as they walk past the place I think are snobs.
 
gabi said:
I wasn't accusing people who choose not to eat at Subway of snobbery. It's the people on this thread who hold their nose as they walk past the place I think are snobs.


that's not very clear from your post..
 
gabi said:
I wasn't accusing people who choose not to eat at Subway of snobbery. It's the people on this thread who hold their nose as they walk past the place I think are snobs.
Fuck off, I hold my nose cos it stinks and makes me gag. Like a filthy working class beggar. :p
 
I don’t think its snobbery saying you don’t like places like Subway. What do they give to a high street? They pay crap wages (the guys employed to hold their ad boards get minimum wage if they are lucky for a 9 hour day with 1/2 hour lunch and a free sarnie); they put local independent shops under pressure and potentially out of business but selling cheaper products and pushing up rent rates (Charring Cross road being a prime example); they look ugly and they smell.
 
memespring said:
I don’t think its snobbery saying you don’t like places like Subway. What do they give to a high street? They pay crap wages (the guys employed to hold their ad boards get minimum wage if they are lucky for a 9 hour day with 1/2 hour lunch and a free sarnie); they put local independent shops under pressure and potentially out of business but selling cheaper products and pushing up rent rates (Charring Cross road being a prime example); they look ugly and they smell.

I don't think it's going to put say, the Phoenix under pressure. It might put Gregg's under pressure. And McDonalds.
 
gabi said:
I don't think it's going to put say, the Phoenix under pressure. It might put Gregg's under pressure. And McDonalds.

Probably not in terms of direct competition, the important thing is ground rent. On Charring Cross Road book shops have been forced out because chain shops from a different market (starbucks, all bar one, subway etc) can afford higher rents because of the higher profits that low staff costs and bulk buying bring.


This is worth reading about the 'Board Guys':
http://money.guardian.co.uk/work/story/0,1456,1643687,00.html
 
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