New statues

[bimble]

Yes but not just that - it's well judged.

I don't know what that means, well judged.
I'm a bit biased tho, my mother is a person who makes pretty-terrible-but-taken-seriously-by-some-people Art, so its been a thing my whole life, the But Why of it all.
I resent public art quite often, or i did when i lived in that city and had to see it a lot. Like that silly 9 meter tall bronze couple in st pancras station, next to your betjeman, i hate it, the station itself is beautiful and I feel quite strongly that these random objects should not be in there, cluttering up the place.

 

[Ax^]

would like nice outside the house of Parliament

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[Ax^]

 

[Saul Goodman]

Can anyone think of a modern statue representing an actual person that isn't a total joke? They just look really weird and shit, all of them.

 

[Doodler]

I don't know what that means, well judged.
I'm a bit biased tho, my mother is a person who makes pretty-terrible-but-taken-seriously-by-some-people Art, so its been a thing my whole life, the But Why of it all.
I resent public art quite often, or i did when i lived in that city and had to see it a lot. Like that silly bronze couple in st pancras station, next to your betjeman, i hate it, the station itself is beautiful and I feel quite strongly that these random objects should not be in there, cluttering up the place.

The bronze couple is a truly terrible bit of public art, particularly embarrassing when bearing in mind it's one of the first things people will see when they get off the Eurostar trains. A statue of a giant garden gnome exposing itself could hardly create a worse impression.

 

[killer b]

Sorry, its crap.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Sorry, its crap.

Elaborate.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

we need more statues of cats

 

[killer b]

I agree with killer b that they're all massively terrible these modern bronzes but why is that though, did the romans think theirs (famous contemporary humans ones i mean) were all laughably shit too, at the time? maybe they did.

I think it's probably to do with the changes photography and film have made to art and how we see it tbh. I feel pretty similar about painted portraits of famous people too - they're mostly awful. Portraits of non-famous people (and tbf statues - sculptures - of non-famous people) are more likely to be ok. I guess because how good a representation of the subject it is becomes less important.

 

[Humberto]

There's already one of, George Orwell. Was going to be my (tentative) shout.

 

[Ax^]

Elaborate.

not as good as the one at Beckley park

 

[killer b]

jesus.

 

[Pickman's model]

There's already one of, George Orwell. Was going to be my (tentative) shout.

The tout Eric Blair?

 

[bimble]

Elaborate.

No you elaborate, you put it here, If you think its an example of a not-shit statue why do you think that?
What is the point of it? What is it for?
Why is it better that it exists than doesn't exist?
If you have no answer for any of those then its just crap isnt it, before you even get into the grotesquely stiff bland dummy-like quality of that particular statue.

 

[Humberto]

Well are we restricting it to Saints?

 

[Ax^]

jesus.

quite sure it Turing

**Edit to add as i've never seen the Manchester statue.. just look up the plaque that accompanies it
do not take anything away from it

 

[killer b]

he deserves better than these two, that's for sure.

 

[Saul Goodman]

No you elaborate, you put it here, If you think its an example of a not-shit statue why do you think that?
What is the point of it? What is it for?
Why is it better that it exists than doesn't exist?
If you have no answer for any of those then its just crap isnt it, before you even get into the grotesquely stiff bland dummy-like quality of that particular statue.

Because it's Alan Turing, the man who cracked the Enigma code, who shortened the war by years, who saved countless lives, who was thanked with chemical castration for being gay, and subsequently took his own life by eating the poisoned apple in his right hand. I can't think of anybody more deserving of a statue, but I am sorry it doesn't meet your exacting standards.

 

[bimble]

ooh i've thought of one.
I saw this last year, its from the late 1980s. its not so much the statue itself (though i like the rainproof cloak and the stern gaze) but where it is - its in an extremely posh part of a once-fashionable Czech town (karsbad, was a 'healing waters' resort for european gentry), where he never lived but did visit.
He's sat there at the edge of the forest staring down the hill upon rows of absolutely massive 19th century millionaires villas, and its got something to it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well are we restricting it to Saints?

And greavsie

 

[bimble]

Because it's Alan Turing, the man who cracked the Enigma code, who shortened the war by years, who saved countless lives, who was thanked with chemical castration for being gay, and subsequently took his own life by eating the poisoned apple in his right hand. I can't think of anybody more deserving of a statue, but I am sorry it doesn't meet your exacting standards.

ok so you posted it because you think he deserves a statue. Because a statue is the highest mark of respect or something, not because of anything about the statue itself. ok.

 

[Pickman's model]

No you elaborate, you put it here, If you think its an example of a not-shit statue why do you think that?
What is the point of it? What is it for?
Why is it better that it exists than doesn't exist?
If you have no answer for any of those then its just crap isnt it, before you even get into the grotesquely stiff bland dummy-like quality of that particular statue.

All art is utterly useless
--Oscar Wilde

 

[Pickman's model]

ok so you posted it because you think he deserves a statue. Because a statue is the highest mark of respect or something, not because of anything about the statue itself. ok.

You always do this, when you get the hump you respond in ways which show you can't engage honestly when riled. Eg Saul Goodman said nothing about the level of respect a statue showed

 

[rubbershoes]

All memes should be rendered in bronze, with all other evidence of them removed, once they hit 100 million shares

26th century art buff "That woman and cat must have been great leaders in their time"

 

[bimble]

You always do this, when you get the hump you respond in ways which show you can't engage honestly when riled. Eg Saul Goodman said nothing about the level of respect a statue showed

Don't be silly. I'm not riled i'm just being annoying. He said that if anyone deserves a statue its Turing, and thats why he thinks the statue of Turing is not crap.
So any statue of Turing would be good, in his view. Because its not about the thing in itself its 'having a statue', as a mark of respect.
Idk how you can see any other interpretation of that, but you carry on.

 

[JimW]

Doesn't even look like him, which you though might have come up in the brief.

 

[chilango]

There's a brand new Greta Thunberg statue at Winchester Uni. It's a decent likeness, but the the students aren't sure it's a sensible use of Uni funds. Not sure anyone else is tbh.

Greta Thunberg statue at Winchester university sparks anger

The students' union questions whether the £24,000 cost of the statue could have been better spent.

www.bbc.co.uk

Somebody mentioned this statue to me the other questioning what she'd done to deserve a statue. "Yeah!" I snorted derisively "how many slaves does she even own?".

That ended that particular chat

 

[killer b]

they mostly look like those terrifying zombie tattoos people get of their kids

 

[bimble]

If you actually did achieve some amazing thing before you die, would you want this for yourself, an effigy that birds shit on?