what rubbish, nomark, how many times, Islam is a religion and Muslims are its adherents, not a race, calling someone racist is a heavy accusation indeed and something i think the mods should have a look at. The amount of times i have head Christians being talked about derogatory on here with no comeback and no I'm not one
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treelover said:
So read JHE's posts, going back 4 years.
Or search stormfront, if you want to deny someone on here can be racist. I'd challenge you to read his posts here as they're more damning.
JHE said:
Do you not know where that site is or how to search it?
You know well I am not allowed to link to that site, so why are you trying to get me to link to that site. And why are you so proud of it?
I don't think you're fash by the way. I just think you're a racist.
So you are claiming not to know where that site is 
So that's a no then, and an urge to break the FAQ.
You already know, and seem quite proud; does that mean that you're one of the posters on there as well? I took you as 'racist' against Muslims and 'immigrants' from your posts - as do lots of people. Do you now hate all non-white people?
You already know, and seem quite proud; does that mean that you're one of the posters on there as well? I took you as 'racist' against Muslims and 'immigrants' from your posts - as do lots of people. Do you now hate all non-white people?
nonamenopackdrill said:
You can't read then.
Soul On Ice
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nonamenopackdrill said:
I don't want to get caught up in the dispute between nona and the other poster but section 6 of the FAQs does allow for the posting of nasty websites, as long as the links are not direct links, and I quote:
"6. Trolling/direct linking. Do not directly link to 'hostile' websites (leave gaps in the URL if you wish to refer to them)."
JHE
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Don't worry, Soul on Ice, poor old Nona is slightly less stupid than he pretends - and I have pointed out a couple of methods by which he could post the 14 urls without making a link.
Nona is a strange and unhappy lad. When he's not tormenting William, he's trying to close down other bulletin boards by posting tens of thousands of smilies and posting things unacceptable to the host and then complaining to the host that the posts break the terms of service or he's trying to suck up to other people by leaving al-Respeq (despite his agreement with it)....
On and on it goes.
Basically his urges are to suck up and spit down. He's unkind, unscrupulous and pathetic. He's a dhimmi-Trot with a sad fascist personality.
His shouting Ray Cyst! at me is one of his less nasty stupidities.
Nona is a strange and unhappy lad. When he's not tormenting William, he's trying to close down other bulletin boards by posting tens of thousands of smilies and posting things unacceptable to the host and then complaining to the host that the posts break the terms of service or he's trying to suck up to other people by leaving al-Respeq (despite his agreement with it)....
On and on it goes.
Basically his urges are to suck up and spit down. He's unkind, unscrupulous and pathetic. He's a dhimmi-Trot with a sad fascist personality.
His shouting Ray Cyst! at me is one of his less nasty stupidities.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
he is right that you are a repugnantly reactionary, islamophobic, piece of shit tho, whose posts on any subject with the vaguest relation to that religion are always snide sneering drivel.
in this one you simply update the 'jewish communists' bit that was preferred in years gone by.
in this one you simply update the 'jewish communists' bit that was preferred in years gone by.
Fisher_Gate
Active Member
JHE said:
If he resigned his seat now there would be no by-election. It's the law.
Fisher_Gate
Active Member
Nigel Irritable said:
There are some fair points here. The other complication you don't mention is that the local Labour Party in Aston have been tried and convicted of ballot-rigging by the courts, the infamous 'banana republic' case in 2005 that led to Cllr Aziz's election in the first place, so it's not as if they are a very attractive option for anyone vaguely socialist.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4406575.stm
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/voting/story/0,,1460951,00.html
liampreston
Spend time, not money
So ex-Labour, ex-Lib Dem, now jumps ship again? Maybe he should see how standing for re-election under his third banner goes down with voters? Wispec' are all for democratic means of representation, yes?
Fisher_Gate
Active Member
liampreston said:
He didn't jump ship from Labour to LibDem while in post - he stood unsuccessfully as a LibDem in 2004 and won his seat in the by-election that followed the disqualification of the 'elected' Labour councillors for ballot rigging. I presume that his period as a Labour Councillor was for a term of office before that, though I have no info about that so I presume Udo or Mutley might tell us?
As for submitting himself for re-election, he has signalled his intention of seeking re-election at the first available opportunity (May 2007, as I said in post #46 it can't be any earlier - as a former candidate in local elections you should be more aware than most of the law).
And while we are on the subject of defections that you are so concerned about, Liam, why didn't the two Tories who defected to your LibDem group on Preston City Council last year submit themselves for re-election under their new party colours in May when they could have done so? Might I suggest to you it's because no-one can tell the difference between the Tories and LibDems in Preston? (or in Birmingham where they are in the same sort of coalition the Preston LibDems are calling for?).
The most damning thing about the recent recruit to Respect is that he stood in an election as a LibDem candidate at a time when they were in coalition with Tories. It would be best if he genuinely acknowledged that this was a fundamental mistake - this is a different issue to whether any individual has illusions the LibDems represent an anti-war alternative in my book.
Geoff Collier
Active Member
Fisher_Gate said:
Are you sure about this? Angela Clarke (BNP) resigned her Keighley West seat on Bradford council last February and a by-election was held on March 23rd.
liampreston
Spend time, not money
Fishergate - I would support if the former Tory councillors stood for re-election under thier new LibDem colours. They have chosen not to do so, that is their choice. As a humble member (former Secretary of the local Assoc as of last week 
) I can only put forward my opinions of what I believe to be right.
) I can only put forward my opinions of what I believe to be right.Fisher_Gate
Active Member
Geoff Collier said:
Hint: It's December now ... the date of a resignation is significant
Fisher_Gate
Active Member
liampreston said:Fishergate - I would support if the former Tory councillors stood for re-election under thier new LibDem colours. They have chosen not to do so, that is their choice. As a humble member (former Secretary of the local Assoc as of last week
Obviously your fellow LibDems do not share your approach to democracy ...
liampreston
Spend time, not money
FG - people much higher up than I took the view that the defections could take place without resignations or byelections. That is the decision of people over whom I have no influence nor sway.
As it goes, June Dodd, who made the opposite switch, was not pressed by the Tories to re-stand either, so none of them (or us) are perfect.
Steven Brooks didn't resign to re-stand, I note. 
As it goes, June Dodd, who made the opposite switch, was not pressed by the Tories to re-stand either, so none of them (or us) are perfect.
Steven Brooks didn't resign to re-stand, I note.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
how so? the date only matters in so far as there are only so many days after it happens before a by-election MUST be called. So it is only if there is a routine election already called within that period that it matters. other than that, it doesnt matter at all, as far as I knew.Fisher_Gate said:
Fisher_Gate
Active Member
belboid said:
Then you don't know the law about council by-elections
Another hint: it's generally called "the six month law" ... and it applies to Councillor Aziz in Birmingham ... but not necessarily other councillors
Fisher_Gate
Active Member
mutley said:
I'm sure there are some, but they are few and far between. There was one MP in living memory (1982) who switched parties (Labour to SDP) and forced a by-election which he stood in. He lost.
http://www.geocities.com/by_elections/merton82.html
Fisher_Gate
Active Member
belboid said:
Okay it predates the internet, so you have to rely on good old hard copy. I give in....
I'm paraphrasing as I don't have the wording of the law in front of me, but it is roughly ...
If a council vacancy occurs (whether by resignation, death or disqualification) within six months of the ending of the term of office of the councillor, then there is no by-election and the seat is held 'vacant' until the normal date for the election.
Section 89 of the Local Government Act 1972.
So a councillor who is up for election on 3 May 2007 has to resign (or die or be disqualified) before 3 November 2006 for there to be a by-election.
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