New President of the Philippines - Duterte the Punisher.

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by goldenecitrone, May 9, 2016.

  1. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

    In a South-east Asian parallel of the American Presidential election, Filipinos have voted 'against' the political establishment and for the maverick mayor of Davao city, Rodrigo Duterte.

    Amongst his policies are threatening corrupt officials to retire or die and encouraging the extrajudicial killings of drug dealers and criminals.

    He recently made the news when commenting on the gang rape of an Australian missionary in a Filipino prison. He joked that as mayor, he should have had the first go.

    His new vice President is likely to be 'Bong Bong' Marcos (Filipinos like their nicknames), son of the late dictator.

    Maverick mayor Duterte set to clinch presidency of Philippines
     
  2. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Are there any lessons Trump might take for his campaign?
     
  3. purves grundy

    purves grundy ambient clown remix

    More interestingly, can we see any connections between this election, Trump and other - what do we call them, rightwing populist leaders?
     
  4. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    It's interesting only in that it shows the level of male-orchestrated violence and intimidation going on across the 3rd world.

    If you grew up in Davao in the midst of nationalist armies and terrorists on Mindinao then that might explain his comments.

    You can't compare it to Trump, the Philippines is different on so may levels. Admittedly I only visited Palawan but learnt alot.
     
  5. Supine

    Supine Rough Like Badger

    When I was there a few people told me that candidates paid people to vote for them outside polling stations. And people were known to have voted at multiple stations so they could get paid multiple times. Not that I'm suggesting their form of democracy is corrupt or anything!
     
  6. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    You can be linked to the killings of hundreds, possibly thousands of people, and still get elected.
     
  7. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    Yeah...that if you tone the rhetoric down a bit you get elected .
     
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  8. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    I love this quote from him when elaborating on his non-church attendance:

    What out criminals Duterte is coming to slaughter you !
     
  9. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    What's he toned down? He's promised to kill up to 100,000 people if (now, when) elected President. He operates vigilante death squads for extra-judicial murders. And he's basically part of a clan that has exercised power within the Philippines for years. Promoting the son of Marcos as his Deputy is just the icing on the cake.

    I spent a month in the Philippines a year ago (Luzon, Cebu, Bohol) and while there are many beautiful places there with many beautiful well-meaning people the whole country, politically, operates on another level to the rest of the world. I've never seen so many machine guns in my life (MacDonalds doormen, in fact every shop doormen, are armed to the teeth) and Davao has one of the highest murder rates in the world despite Duterte's fixed statistics which claim it to be the 5th safest city. Many of these murders are carried out by his own death squads so don't count presumably.

    On top of that its the most ridiculously religious (Catholic) country I've ever been to. God signs are everywhere. "Become a God addict, not a drug addict". Add in the extreme poverty of whole families sleeping in their own excrement in the streets of Manila and yeah, great place.

    Banaue, north Luzon and Bohol (tropical storms and earthquake damage aside) were lovely though.
     
  10. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    Did they teach you much about the concept of a thing called " sarcasm " when you were out there ?
     
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  11. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Last Week Tonight with John Oliver did a piece on this.

    When challenged about the rape comment not only did he stress that he wasn't joking but was serious but stated that he was just talking 'sense'.

    Lovely man.

    Man father lives in the Philippines. When trying to do stuff over there he encounter civil servants with drawers full of money.
    If you want a permit signed or anything if money doesn't go in the drawer it doesn't get done.

    Corruption is a way of life from the bottom up.
     
    Last edited: May 10, 2016
  12. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby Turnips - big! Swedes - small!

    Vile misogyny is no hinderance for some, in the pursuit of power.
     
  13. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    No, no, I'm learning all about that from the great UK Left on Urban75, changing the world one bickering post at a time. ;)
     
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  14. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Kill drug dealers and I'll give you a medal, says Philippines president

    This is what I mean about the Philippines operating on a different level. Mainly a scumfuck of a country that looks like its heading towards more and more lawlessness. I saw no drug problem in the Philippines. Saw one hell of a gun problem though. And some of the worst poverty I've ever seen.

     
  15. Supine

    Supine Rough Like Badger

    Guns and basketball. The American influence continues :facepalm:
     
  16. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

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  17. seventh bullet

    seventh bullet red mullet

    I take it not the ones who pay them.
     
  18. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Yeah, bit like the HMRC with Chinese weaponry.
     
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  19. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model One star in sight

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    very true
     
  20. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

  21. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

  22. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

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  23. Xenonxenon

    Xenonxenon Banned Banned

    Place is a shithole.
     
  24. Kesher

    Kesher #Cookie Jar

  25. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    And that jokey , sarcastic Nobel Peace Prize thing
     
  26. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

  27. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    He seems to be really going to town on them no matter how high up and well connected they are. And not just that there seems to be a massive wave of vigilante killings against the pushers, causing many to hand themselves in to the cops. Also for the first time ever Filipino leftists appear to be supporting a President .

    Now narco-mayors targeted in President Duterte’s war against drugs

    I could grow to like..or at least appreciate ...this guy . His comments on that rape were utterly disgusting though .
     
  28. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    Interesting .



     
  29. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    It's interesting to see he appointed a number of communists to his government cabinet .

    Also according to this he enacted legislation brining in very punitive penalties for anyone discriminating against homosexuals, transgenders and Muslims. And he's getting severe flak from right wing generals as regards " coddling the reds " . While one of his senior aides is an ex communist guerilla .

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    Duterte admits coddling Reds, calls Palparan a bigot
     
  30. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    This him at a communist guerilla camp

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    Seems he's also got a history of being very supportive of gay , Muslim and indigenous organisations , family planning groups and drug rehab groups as well as the communist ones . Despite his despicable rape comments he also once tried to ban the swimsuit bit in beauty pageants on the grounds it was exploitative . Also has turned down numerous government posts in the past . As well as routinely turning down awards . He refuses to accept any awards on principle . And there seems little doubt that as mayor he turned his home city from previously being the Filipino murder capital into one of its safest districts. Apparently with the help of former and current communist fighters ..as well as police and hired guns. Just went to town on the dealers and wiped them out . Rumour has it he even personally took one dealer up in a helicopter and chucked him out . Can't disagree with that .

    Downside he's a fanatical anti smoker who brought in public smoking bans . And once forced a tourist to eat a cigarette butt at gunpoint . Boo sucks to that .
     

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