New neighbours building next door.

[Micro]

This is a good point because at the moment it is not safe for me to go in the garden because work is being carried out in my garden but for next doors property!
Im not even in a position to hang my washing out!

I think you should use the insurance issue as your opener. It’s non-confrontational and you can move easily from there into the effect that the scaffolding has had on your day to day.

Bear in mind that they may have been told by the builder that you okayed the scaffold.

 

[ricbake]

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Do you know the exact line of your original garden wall
Have you done any condition survey of your property to ensure any physical disturbance can be rectified
(subsidence caused by foundation digging or cracked plaster from banging/drilling)
will the new garden wall be part of their house where it wasn't previously
is it clear from the deeds whose responsibility that wall is
(some terrace houses each take responsibility for just one side of the garden boundary wall)
There is a lot to think about - tell them who you are the consideration you need and ask them to do everything appropriate to allay your fears.​

A condition survey can be a collection of photos with captions showing clearly what exists where and how it looks - doesn't need to be a formal RICS certified expense.

Good luck

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Having read the thread, I do think you are in a position to just calmly contact them saying "I agreed to x, y, z and there is no problem with that but I didn't agree to your building work taking place in my garden and it's not acceptable". Having to block your windows, not being able to open your French windows or hang out washing is totally out of order.

 

[Micro]

A condition survey can be a collection of photos with captions showing clearly what exists where and how it looks - doesn't need to be a formal RICS certified expense.

A survey would ideally need to have been done before the work started. If groundworks and foundation work have already started then existing photos can be contested, but still probably worth doing.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Just catching-up on the thread, and TBH kalidarkone I am still confused about what exactly you want to achieve here.

Clearly, they are bang out of order for taking over your garden to carry out this building work, and you are entitled to basically chase them off, delaying the building work & costing the neighbours dearly, if that is what you want.

Or, are you just looking for an apology? Or, perhaps some compensation for the inconvenience?

Do you have concerns as to if this work will in someway undermine your property? In which case, you can call a halt to it & insist they pay for you to have an independent survey done.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I think she just wants to use her back garden, hang out her smalls and be at liberty to roam around her house naked. As is anyone's right!

 

[Mrs Miggins]

He neighbours never said "oh and by the way- this work will mean our builders taking over your garden for an unspecified period of time". If it will cost more for the builders to carry out the work confined to their property well thats just tough shit and it is what should have happened in the first place.

It doesn't have to become all out war but it does need to be addressed.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Actually I'm getting a bit riled about this now.

How can these neighbours think this is OK when they never asked? And they must know unless they have never even bothered to come round to see what's going on.

 

[Micro]

Actually I'm getting a bit riled about this now.

How can these neighbours think this is OK when they never asked? And they must know unless they have never even bothered to come round to see what's going on.

The builders may have told them that kali okayed it.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

The builders may have told them that kali okayed it.

Yes they may have done so that's why she should just drop them a line and tell them that she didn't.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I think she just wants to use her back garden, hang out her smalls and be at liberty to roam around her house naked. As is anyone's right!

TBF I would carry on doing that even if builders invaded my back garden, which would probably guarantee their retreat.

Being serious, if that's the case, there's the nuclear option, but that's not going to help with long term relationships with the neighbours.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I think I would have stopped them when it was going up or if I was out when it happened, I'd have contacted the neighbouts right away.

But that doesn't help with the current situation.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

TBF I would carry on doing that even if builders invaded my back garden, which would probably guarantee their retreat.

Being serious, if that's the case, there's the nuclear option, but that's not going to help with long term relationships with the neighbours.

She's only going to be there for a fairly short time and as people have said, the neighbours may not even know. They need to know. It doesn't have to go nuclear. Just a timeframe might help.

 

[cupid_stunt]

That's my point, Mrs M., it's not clear what kalidarkone actually wants here.

Me, I would be hopping mad if I came home to find scaffolding on my ground, and the builders would be hopping mad the following morning to find it had disappeared & been sold on.

 

[Micro]

That's my point, Mrs M., it's not clear what kalidarkone actually wants here.

Me, I would be hopping mad if I came home to find scaffolding on my ground, and the builders would be hopping mad the following morning to find it had disappeared & been sold on.

I think (correct me if I’m wrong kali) she’s just a very accommodating and tolerant person. She also let things go a little too far because she was wrecked from work and didn’t have the time or energy to really question anything.

She’s now realised this and wants to take back some kind of control. Which is absolutely right, given that this build could go on for 6 months or more.

 

[kalidarkone]

Just catching-up on the thread, and TBH kalidarkone I am still confused about what exactly you want to achieve here.

Clearly, they are bang out of order for taking over your garden to carry out this building work, and you are entitled to basically chase them off, delaying the building work & costing the neighbours dearly, if that is what you want.

Or, are you just looking for an apology? Or, perhaps some compensation for the inconvenience?

Do you have concerns as to if this work will in someway undermine your property? In which case, you can call a halt to it & insist they pay for you to have an independent survey done.

I'd like my new neighbours to acknowledge and apologise for their lack of communication, I'd like an explanation -I mean it's really really rude! And how does pissing off the neighbour that has been there for 23 years benefit them? I'd like them to adopt an open and honest approach to communicating with me seeing as their plans are impacting greatly on me. I'm the one who has changed things so their work can go ahead.
I want to find out how necessary it is for the scaffolding to be on the back of my house. This is all stuff that should have been run by me ages ago.
The only way that it will undermine my property is that the already dark back of my house will be made even darker by the extention. Which may make my house not so easy to sell perhaps.
I'd like my garden to be sorted out it was scruffy anyway but now it's a right mess. I want it put back how it was.


I'm wondering why you are asking me this again as I'd already replied to you up thread?
I have no interest in halting their work or incurring more expense to them . I would like to be considered. They are riding roughshod over me at the moment.
Do you think that if I am not interested in financial compensation or halting their work and costing them more money,that I should not say anything to them?

Sadlying this is the gentrification happening in my area. They are showing themselves to clearly feel so entitled that they could not be bothered to have a chat to me before they moved out for the work to be done.

When I move to a different house - these are the things that I would consider when living in close proximity to others.

 

[kalidarkone]

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Oh my fucking god that is horrific.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

No - you absolutely should not put up with that and if that were my garden, I would not be giving a flying fuck about future relations. Future relations are already fucked because of that.

 

[fishfinger]

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Fuck. That. Shit.

I'm not surprised you're miffed!

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I'd probably be out dumping those breeze blocks back on their property even if it meant carrying them one by one through the house and dumping them in their front garden.

(Not suggesting you do that )

 

[kalidarkone]

No - you absolutely should not put up with that and if that were my garden, I would not be giving a flying fuck about future relations. Future relations are already fucked because of that.

Exactly.

Got a mate coming round soon,she's gonna help me with the email and I'm gonna see if she will be my representative.

 

[souljacker]

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WTF! I'd be calling the police!

 

[kalidarkone]

 

[ShiftyBagLady]

My God! I wouldn't want to live with that either!
Have you actually spoken with them yet? I'd just go over and ask them what was going on. Ask how long they expect that to be there and why they never informed you that your living space would be taken up by this. Just ask them questions and let them know how you feel. Don't stay long or get into any debates, save that for after your meeting when you can ask the council for advice on your options.
There should be someone at the council who you can ask for information and advice on disputes like this.

Once they know you're really unhappy they can do nothing or they might try to resolve it which would take the pressure off you.

I had scaffolding outside my house for a year and I wouldn't wish it on anybody!

 

[Micro]

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Ok, these builders are taking the piss, and they know it.

Did you give them permission to store their materials in your garden?

 

[kalidarkone]

Ok, these builders are taking the piss, and they know it.

Did you give them permission to store their materials in your garden?

No

 

[cupid_stunt]

I totally agree with you Kali, they are proper out of order.

The only way that it will undermine my property is that the already dark back of my house will be made even darker by the extention. Which may make my house not so easy to sell perhaps.

Sadly, there's nowt you can do about that, even if it the extension was being done under 'permitted development', and thus not requiring an application for planning permission, but in this case they appear to actually have planning permission. As weird as it may seem, there's no automatic right to views or daylight, against a building project that's legal.

So, basically you are looking for an apology, a timescale for completion of the work, guarantees that your garden is made good, and your garden wall is re-built?

 

[cupid_stunt]

WTF! I'd be calling the police!

They wouldn't be interested, it's a civil matter.

 

[kalidarkone]

My God! I wouldn't want to live with that either!
Have you actually spoken with them yet? I'd just go over and ask them what was going on. Ask how long they expect that to be there and why they never informed you that your living space would be taken up by this. Just ask them questions and let them know how you feel. Don't stay long or get into any debates, save that for after your meeting when you can ask the council for advice on your options.
There should be someone at the council who you can ask for information and advice on disputes like this.

Once they know you're really unhappy they can do nothing or they might try to resolve it which would take the pressure off you.

I had scaffolding outside my house for a year and I wouldn't wish it on anybody!

I let one of them know (not the boss) the nice one that I wanted the owners contact details cus I was cheesed off that no one had asked my permission re scaffolding or equipment and materials and that my privacy was being invaded. I said it quietly and calmly and I didn't swear. He nodded cus he knew.