kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Will I find the planning website on the Bristol City council website?
New neighbours building next door.
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ricbake
working out how
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
I have done this and nothing comes up! Can't find the letter I had informing me of the building of the roof dormer. However I have emailed Bristol City Council asking for an appointment early on Thursday (that is the only day they have them) regarding the planning application for that property .
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Thanks for all the support and advice I really appreciate it. I shall keep you informed.
Treacle Toes
Time
Even if you find they do have permission to build the extension kalidarkone they are definately taking the absolute piss with how they are going about things and how the work is encroaching on your home/garden and life. I would write a bullet point list of all the things that are inconveniencing and/or upsetting you. The owner doesn't know you don't have the money for a lawyer. I would insist the builders got them to contact me immediately. Fucking banking on you just putting up with it.
Micro
Out of my box
Try putting the street name and house number in here. If nothing comes up just search the street and look through the list:
Address Search
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Yes you are right. If the owner had told me exactly what was going on in could of accommodated it much better for myself. I then would not have minded so much.
The bullet point list is a great idea.
If I can get to see the planning people on Thursday I'll feel in a better position. I shall follow my email up with a call tomorrow.
Thanks Rutita x
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Both angry but no balls either of them.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Bingo! Found it. They have permissions. Now going to look at the plans.
Thank you Micro you diamond xxx
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
They have permissions. Fine.
I now have the email address and phone number of the owner from the builders.
I have registered my concerns with them pointing out that despite the fact I have been very accommodating it has not run both ways. That I do not recall giving permission for the scaffolding to be in my garden, for their equipment and materials to be in my garden, or for them to be in my garden. Liberties have been taken. My privacy has been invaded and I have a lack of light in my house. So now they know and now I'm going to email the owner.
I'm all ears in terms of how to put this to the owner .
I discovered last night that next door and the two houses next to that are all having work done by the same building company so knew what was going on obviously.
I now have the email address and phone number of the owner from the builders.
I have registered my concerns with them pointing out that despite the fact I have been very accommodating it has not run both ways. That I do not recall giving permission for the scaffolding to be in my garden, for their equipment and materials to be in my garden, or for them to be in my garden. Liberties have been taken. My privacy has been invaded and I have a lack of light in my house. So now they know and now I'm going to email the owner.
I'm all ears in terms of how to put this to the owner .
I discovered last night that next door and the two houses next to that are all having work done by the same building company so knew what was going on obviously.
Are they building on the boundary ?
kalidarkone
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Not quite. There is a very small gap. Previously what was concrete space is being built on. So approx 12 ft from my kitchen window to the previous kitchen window. The new extention is taking up their 6ft of space. So rather then the wall that was there separating our gardens there will be a one storey building.
souljacker
innit
They don't need planning permission for a loft conversion if it meets certain criteria. Same for the single story extension. They do need a party wall agreement in some circumstances but you can get away with just telling your neighbours if your not actually changing anything on their house.
They do need to ask you if they are putting scaffolding on your property though.
They do need to ask you if they are putting scaffolding on your property though.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Yes. That is the issue, they never asked.
ricbake
working out how
Putting aside the assumptions, lack of consideration and liberties the builders have taken over the past month, your neighbours are obviously investing a large amount of money in major works to their home which will be stressful etc etc...
The builder will have been reassuring them at these early stages - everything is fine, "we've done the whole street - it's a doddle!"
You have said to them in the early stages fine fine yes ok - no problem so long as it doesn't cost me anything.
The neighbours and you will live with each other long after the builders have gone and they haven't given you the option of moving out whilst this disruptive works is done. It will be easier to get on with them if everything is discussed as early as possible.
The builder will have been reassuring them at these early stages - everything is fine, "we've done the whole street - it's a doddle!"
You have said to them in the early stages fine fine yes ok - no problem so long as it doesn't cost me anything.
The neighbours and you will live with each other long after the builders have gone and they haven't given you the option of moving out whilst this disruptive works is done. It will be easier to get on with them if everything is discussed as early as possible.
Do you know the exact line of your original garden wall
Have you done any condition survey of your property to ensure any physical disturbance can be rectified
(subsidence caused by foundation digging or cracked plaster from banging/drilling)
will the new garden wall be part of their house where it wasn't previously
is it clear from the deeds whose responsibility that wall is
(some terrace houses each take responsibility for just one side of the garden boundary wall)
There is a lot to think about - tell them who you are the consideration you need and ask them to do everything appropriate to allay your fears.
Have you done any condition survey of your property to ensure any physical disturbance can be rectified
(subsidence caused by foundation digging or cracked plaster from banging/drilling)
will the new garden wall be part of their house where it wasn't previously
is it clear from the deeds whose responsibility that wall is
(some terrace houses each take responsibility for just one side of the garden boundary wall)
There is a lot to think about - tell them who you are the consideration you need and ask them to do everything appropriate to allay your fears.
souljacker
innit
That's the only thing you can complain about though I'm afraid.
Treacle Toes
Time
Take pictures and add them to your email. Don't be reserved in telling them just how annoyed you are that such blatant liberties have been taken despite the fact that you have been so accomodating Send them the list of issues. Ask the for an on-site meeting asap to discuss the situation further.
Treacle Toes
Time
Have someone with you at the meeting that takes copious notes. Don't introduce them more than 'my representative'.
Micro
Out of my box
In Ireland, which has similar planning laws to the UK, you don’t need planning for a velux window on the back of the roof, but you always need it for a dormer.
For a loft conversion from storage to ‘habitable space’, you need to comply with fire and ventilation regulations. This means an enclosed staircase to the loft and 2.4m ceiling height for at least 50% of the usable floor space.
If you can’t meet those requirements then you can still do the work, but it should only be used as storage. Most people do the work without meeting the regulations and use it as a bedroom, but when it comes to selling the house they can’t call it a bedroom. And if there is a fire you could end up with no cover. And bad burns.
Kali, none of this affects you. I’m just being boring and blathering on.
souljacker
innit
Same in the UK but you don't need planning permission. You do need the council bloke to come round and sign it all off though.
Micro
Out of my box
You also need to know whether the builder has adequate insurance to cover someone getting injured on your property when working on the scaffold, and for you or your family or visitors getting injured by falling scaffolding, tools, etc.
I’d ask them for copies of the builder’s insurance policies, which they would have been provided with before the work started (if they have an actual contract with the builder).
If they can’t produce any of this, then you’re leaving yourself wide open if you let the work continue.
I’d ask them for copies of the builder’s insurance policies, which they would have been provided with before the work started (if they have an actual contract with the builder).
If they can’t produce any of this, then you’re leaving yourself wide open if you let the work continue.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
The neighbours should have come and spoken to me face to face before starting the work. They mentioned in passing about the dormer -which I had notice for. Fine. Bit cheesed off as it ruins my panoramic view - told them that. They never mentioned about the extention. I've been put in a position where I've been accommodating cus when they asked about the wall and the tree it was not with any notice and I was on my way to work and not in a position to debate it then.
I'm not in any kind of financial position to get surveys and the like done.
I'm only going to be living here for the next couple of years at the most. I'm certainly not going to roll over and let them take liberties without an explanation of why they think that is alright and how is it conducive to good neighbour relations?
It sounds to me as if you are suggesting that I do not complain in order to keep the peace despite the fact that it's not me causing major inconvenience and being really shady about it.
My neighbour on the other side did building work for 18 months and it was fine cus he told me what was going on- that's all I ask!
ricbake
working out how
I was assuming you would be continuing to live next door and you said you found the whole thing stressful and were busy with your work and life and own worries. Not wanting to take any legal route. I certainly don't think you should capitulate at all but an approach setting out your needs and requirements, letting them know you feel they have been remiss in not communicating better is all I'm suggesting
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
This is a good point because at the moment it is not safe for me to go in the garden because work is being carried out in my garden but for next doors property!
Im not even in a position to hang my washing out!
Micro
Out of my box
I’m still not 100% clear. Do they definitely have planning permission for the extension, or just the dormer?
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
I think if you look up thread you will find that I've already stated that is what I wanted. Thanks for trying to be helpful but I feel you are running over old ground that was already discussed previously on the thread.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
They have planning permission for both.
