New home for Black Cultural Archives - Raleigh Hall

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by Nickster, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    I'm fairly sure it's still planned for there.
  2. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

    I cannot see from the thread exactly what it is that the participants actually wish to contribute to the Black Cultural Archives.
  3. editor

    editor hiraethified

    What do you wish to contribute to the Black Cultural Archives>
  4. Cowley

    Cowley Well-Known Member

    I think the architecture is important, appearances count for something when it comes to Museums and the like.

    IMO, whilst the intention is to host it as the BCA, I would imagine other events take place in the building given it's prime location.

    I think it will work as both a place to visit for folks who are interested BCA and will also work as a cafe, space/place to meet. It will need constant advertisement and investment though.
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  5. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

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    Hoardings are down.

    The gates don't look much like what was in the original proposal. The proposal was close boarded and I prefer that they are open like this but they are a bit industrial and lack the crafting of the rest of the building (modern and refurbed). I'm really not keen on the salmon colour of the refurbed building - I much preferred the contrast of a lighter colour which helped define the two parts and made the site a lot brighter.

    But overall - what a great change.
  6. lang rabbie

    lang rabbie Je ne regrette les gazebos

  7. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    £7million that twitter account says... £7million!

    I know it's HLF / Lambeth / Mayor's office funded, but how do you let a budget creep that much? Remembering back I did meet someone from PRS who said the project went through at least two sets of architects and was chaos for a while.

    At least they'll take away trade from the Ritzy (who now have rum sponsored parasols on what appears to be public space) and put it towards a better cause.
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  8. Dexter Deadwood

    Dexter Deadwood Left Voluntarily Enforced Holiday Banned

    Whatever we think about the design, the cost, the delays, it's a welcome addition to the heart of Brixton. Looking forward to my first visit and enjoying it thereafter.
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  9. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    Yes, I'm not disputing that, its been a long time since it moved from that corner shop - more the D&B costs - that's years of revenue funding which will be lots harder to raise.
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  10. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    Rushy is right (can't believe I've just typed that :hmm: ) the gates are not quite right.

    And I think the architects haven't quite meshed the old and new together. In NL, where new bits on old buildings are v common, they have it nailed- you take a line or a level or an element from the old building and follow it through onto the new. Whereas that new bit could be bolted onto anything, it doesn't 'belong' to that location or that building iyswim.

    It's a vast improvement but it's late on a Friday night and I'm a slightly tipsy random on the internet, if I can't tell the architects their job what can I do? ;)
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  11. Dexter Deadwood

    Dexter Deadwood Left Voluntarily Enforced Holiday Banned

    We are all a bit tipsy on a Frday night if we are lucky. I had a look at it today and the gates don't look "right" it was one of the first things that struck me.
    Then i asked myself what did i think was wrong with them? I responded by saying to myself that i did not think they were in scale with both buildings. Then i retorted myself by questioning gates and their function and decided the gate is appropriate.

    As an aside, struck up a conversation with a passerby who was also delighted to see the possibility of an opening soon.
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  12. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    It would look great with windows.
  13. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    I don't mind the not windows, it's just that the line of the old windows, the metal on the atrium and the black mini windows are all at slightly different levels. Which seems visually uncomfortable to me (tho I am not artistically trained, an architect or whatever and I risk coming over all daily mail 'I know what I like')
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  14. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    Functional isn't enough. Particularly when we're talking £millions IMO. Brixton square, for example, is functional and it's fucking hideous.
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  15. Dexter Deadwood

    Dexter Deadwood Left Voluntarily Enforced Holiday Banned

    I'm sure the gates are functionial and they are appropriately understatex when i don't have spellchecker enabled. We want to allow people in.
    Brixton Square, which i agree with you could be considered as hideous example of exclusion but seems to be an architectural capitalist nod to the Barrier Block. That's how the spivs get away with it i think.
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  16. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

  17. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

  18. Manter

    Manter Lunch Mob

    Knew that'd come back to haunt me....
  19. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

  20. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    Have definitively gone off the window colour now
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  21. friendofdorothy

    friendofdorothy it is so much worse than Thatcherism now

    sounds great. I've never seen LKJ perform live. I like the way the building opens out to windrush square - looks like a great place to have an event.
  22. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Might go to the Assata Shakur thing
  23. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    I listened to a speaker reading from notes at the opening for as long as I could bear (admittedly not very long) - but it was terribly dry. Even Paul Reid had wandered off into the square for a chat. The solemn atmosphere was partially alleviated by a chap stood directly in front of the podium, staring intently at the lady speaker from within touching distance, vigourously nodding his head in agreement with everything and turning to the crown to applaud with his hands above his head after most every sentence.
  24. Casaubon

    Casaubon Well-Known Member

  25. GarveyLives

    GarveyLives Well-Known Member

  26. OvalhouseDB

    OvalhouseDB Well-Known Member

    I was at the awards, and it was great to see BCA take the prize in the first category to be announced - 'Conservation and Retrofit' - and then at the end to get the Prize of Prizes. Other Lambeth winners were Cyclehoop for the bike hangars (Transport and Infrastructure) Clapham Old Town (Public Spaces), and loads of shortlisted projects - incl Somerleyton Rd and Pop Brixton.

    Well done all involved in the long and sometimes fraught journey in getting BCA built and opened. And you can see I Am A Promise by the Ovalhouse 13-18 drama group, their response to the Staying Power exhibition, performed in the BCA courtyard at 6pm on 14th and 17th July!
  27. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It's great to see it up and running but are there any figures for how the place is performing? It always seem worryingly quiet when I go by.
  28. brixtonblade

    brixtonblade Well-Known Member

    it doesn't seem to be a place to go for a general mooch like a museum as the exhibition space is so small. I'm guessing that it's performance is therefore more about education plus the value from being an archive which I couldn't really try to quantify.
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  29. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    I notice that as well.

    The latest exhibition is the best one they have done so far.

    The award is for the conservation and retrofit as well as winning the overall competition.

    Considering they have a cafe with a decent sized square in front they do not seem to be making much use of it. I would have thought at the very least it would be a potential money spinner. Like the Ritzy cafe is.
  30. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    I has a chat with someone who works in the field. They reckoned that whilst BCA had "skill set" to get the archives housed in new building they do not know about how to make best use of the archives and exhibition space.

    They agreed with me that the latest exhibition has been the best one. Partly as it was joint project with V&A and some well known academics.
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