New home for Black Cultural Archives - Raleigh Hall

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by Nickster, Mar 6, 2006.

  1. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    The report is certainly obscure. The way is reads to me not £214,000 but twice £214,000 is required, partly because a performance bond is due but the performance hasn't fully come to fruition so to speak.

    Added to this the report only seeks approval from a Cabinet Member (Rachel Heywood?). I would feel better about it if there was going to be a public discussion of why this has happened.

    Obviously this is not on the scale of the £10 million overspend on Brixton Rec which resulted in is standing empty and uncompleted for several years before being bailed out by Ken Livingstone when the GLC was wound up.

    But it is a warning that public works projects are notoriously prone to financial miscalculations/hitches/contractor problems.
     
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  2. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    It really didn't help that they chose a dilapidated existing building to work with. Such things have "unquantifiable RISK" stamped all over them. It would have been cheaper to either a) give Raleigh hall another 5-10 years to self destruct and then new build, or b) move into an existing building that's fit for purpose.
     
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  3. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Its a Grade 2 listed building. Does not completely protect it. But would have thought that even if Council had sold site it would be a headache for a developer.
     
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  4. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    Looks like work has ground to a halt
     
  5. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    True - but ultimately, when the thing is finished, few will remember the wrangling over costs and the time-overruns.

    Brixton deserves an iconic public building in a central location - and what better than providing a home for the Black Cultural Archives, right in the middle of the town square, in the spiritual home of black Britain?

    This is one of the few things I am more than happy for the council to chuck our money at.
     
  6. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Oh yes I agree. With my cynic hat off, I can't wait to see it finished. It will add so much to the square.
     
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  7. technical

    technical stripey

    Indeed - I'd congratulate the council for persevering and refurbishing/reusing a listed building in the heart of Brixton. I guess we have to wait until its finished to see what it will really look like in its context, but at the moment I'm not so keen on the design. But very pleased that the project retains a characterful building rather than a modern and potentially bland box.

    Not so sure about the unquantifiable risk idea - there's plenty of things you can do to minimise risk in this kind of project. In fact, you could argue that the construction industry likes to play up the risk factor in order to be able to get an empty site and (in their eyes) a more straightforward project.
     
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  8. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    They were hard at it at lunchtime today. My idea that they had stopped must be based on going past, to work, at 4.45pm every day.
     
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  9. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

    good to hear it! :)
     
  10. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    Daylight generally helps on building sites :D.
     
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  11. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    I hadn't clocked that the entire original hall was going to be rendered.
     
  12. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    VERY BIG CRANE there today.
     
  13. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    It's all very exciting
     
  14. technical

    technical stripey

    Still not sure about the new cube-like building, but the hall itself is looking good
     
  15. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    I love the windows
     
  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm not entirely convinced by the monolithic nature of the extension.

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  17. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    It'll look better once the hoarding's down and you can see the big windows and how it links in to the orginal building on either side, I reckon.
     
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  18. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    Lovely architectural detail on the main bit
     
  19. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    Scaffolding was coming down this morning...
     
  20. technical

    technical stripey

    Is it supposed to be two tone like that? It looks like some of the materials have failed to dry out
     
  21. trabuquera

    trabuquera Modesty Bag

    I hardly care about the architecture. What is this building actually going to DO and how well will it serve (what remains of) the black community in Brixton/Lambeth/London?
    It'll be heartbreaking if after all this time the thing is a damp squib which ends up drawing in nobody.
     
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  22. lefteri

    lefteri Well-Known Member

    it's an archive - that'll explain the monolithic nature above ground level and the tiny windows - it will no doubt serve those people of any colour who are interested in black culture and want to access said archive fairly well. otherwise it won't have fulfilled its purpose - a tricky thing to get away with in a publicly-funded building
    it's also a cafe which will almost certainly draw people in, if only for beverages and snacks
    presumably there'll be offices as well for the people running it and some sort of exhibition space
     
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  23. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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  24. Brixton Hatter

    Brixton Hatter Home is south London mate

  25. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    Scaffolding came down two weeks ago. Then went up again!
     
  26. passivejoe

    passivejoe Well-Known Member

    Looked really nice with the grey windows and cream walls... now its been repainted and its all cream.
    MUCH preferred it a few weeks back.
     
  27. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    Still looks good but I was thinking exactly the same.
     
  28. leanderman

    leanderman Street Party: July 2

    While I liked the grey window trim too, the two buildings now look more 'together'.
     
  29. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    That's my main issue with it. I think they look too together. I preferred the contrast.
    Don't want to moan though. So pleased to see it almost there.
     
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  30. passivejoe

    passivejoe Well-Known Member

    Me too. Can't wait to visit.
    Did they do away with the cafe idea for the courtyard or is that still part of the plan?
     

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