geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Not round here. My daughter certainly got some of her driving lessons paid for. Not sure if it was a ND thing though.
New Deal Personal Adviser
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Not round here. My daughter certainly got some of her driving lessons paid for. Not sure if it was a ND thing though.I got a letter today from Jobcenter
blar blar I'm delighted to be your New Deal personal adviser.
delighted what alot of bollocks.
Well I just can't wait, Job center going to pay someone to tell me how to look for workfucking wast of money! How about giving me the money so I can buy a new Suits.
what the benefit of having a New Deal personal adviser anyone go one ?
Maybe they could help you out with spelling and punctuation so that your numerous applications make it past the circular filing tray
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
Treacle Toes
Time
Thank god for that.That stands generally as a point, yes
No, I talked about my personal experience of them and having a nice helpful advisor. He was, regardless of who he worked for and what profit they were potientially making he was a nice bloke.You were initially talking as if Working Links are a reasonable bunch, who will reward you with treats
They're not.
I also talked about having a good attitude. I know mine helped me get what I wanted out of them.
I also know it helped because I have worked for long enough in education and training to have experienced the opposite. Beligerence, defensiveness, lack of motivation, lack of compromise and downright rudeness. It's not easy to work with or help folk with that attitude, regardless of the reasons behind it.
Again we agree.
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
Erm I was with them for no more than the two weeks it took me to find and get on a course.
Sorry - didn't see this before - I meant the three months they need to get under their belt to collect the last - and most lucrative - of the bonuses.
The three months after your involvement with them has ended, but at which point you're still signed off.
Which happened eh?
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
No of course not - but then I doubt you were also in the position (without the knowledge of the people you were 'helping') of having a huge stash of money that you were (at your will) to spend on them, or not...whatever it took to increase your chances of cashing in the big prize at the end.
dlx1
Well-Known Member
I been to a class before full of kids fucking about with there model phone, The Teacher had no control, Teacher got upset when I told some of the chav to shut the fuck up or go home. Hard a nuff to be in a class then have to listen to all that carp. The Chav have to stay in class if they don't they don't get there money!
Well, at least it keeps them off the streets.
Yu_Gi_Oh
天天好心情
Yes! They're the ones who my ex had to see, the ones who blithely told him he would be fine in setting up a buisiness with £300.
i_hate_beckham
Him From A Village
I'll have however much money you were putting on that then because they paid for mine.
northernhord
Active Member
Typical A4E
If it was the JC, she would have had to front the cash hersefl first and then they might have reimbursed her (that is if they had honoured their agreement).
The whole ND is a joke. Pushing people into any old work isn't going to help anyone in the long term and these poor fuckers will be back through the door again when their job expires - and will be blamed for that, because everythng that happens or doesn't happen when you're on the dole is YOUR fault. Even if it's because of a useless unreliable employer (and there are many who advertise through the jc).
heartof gold
New Member
there isnt anything you cant do yourself at home or at the library on New Deal re job searching.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
Not the case at all. They gave her money for about 9 lessons, up front.
I_h_b has also posted that they paid for some for him. It does happen.
heartof gold
New Member
why dont the government send you on a proper course if you are on new deal like plumbing or similar if they want to get you back into work. The work experience placements seem to be charity shops or shops nine times out of ten a job dosent come out of it?
They should put some money into proper back to work training?
They should put some money into proper back to work training?
sheothebudworths
Up the bum - no babies!!!
Yeah I wanted to do a carpentry course, but I'm not allowed cos it's over 16 hours (just) so I'm trying to think of something else now...
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Yeah I wanted to do a carpentry course, but I'm not allowed cos it's over 16 hours (just) so I'm trying to think of something else now...
This is the kind of red tape that needs slashing ffs. If someone wants to train to do something this is precisely what the government should be funding to get people qualified to do a proper job.
cybershot
Well-Known Member
I meet my Adviser now She seems nice
Will have to see how they can reword cv
That's a load of bollocks, it's part of your advisor's job, they should be looking at that for you, not sending you off to somewhere else?
What 'brand' have they sent you off to by the way? Such as Working Links, A2E, PPDG, CSV etc?
Treacle Toes
Time
Even scarier is.....a lot of the clients I deal with have been to CV specialists before they come to us. I have to say i'm not impressed by the CV's that have been written for the clients and half the things written on them the clients couldn't elaborate on if they were asked about it at interview. TBH, sometimes they don't even know the meaning of some of the words written in their personal profiles.
I more up for teaching people the skills so that they can do this stuff for themselves, there is an important 'process' that they go through and that learning is deeper and more useful than a CV written by someone else.
Treacle Toes
Time
Of course not. I'd advise you to get someone else to look it over as well afterwards. Do you have a CV already, of some sort?
cybershot
Well-Known Member
Completly agree, any crap CV that's been through some stupid software application like CV writer stands out like a sore thumb.
heartof gold
New Member
the amount of times ive been told different things about the setting out of a cv. everyone says something different.
I see you learned good English THERE yeah!!
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
You always get people in there asking for work these days. Every time I sign on there's one. If I wasn't going to uni I would seriously consider it.Agreed about the money for a suit and/or driving lessons being things which would really give people a better chance of getting into work.
The benefit (admittedly, not to you) of having a New Deal personal advisor is that it's one more person employed, instead of adding to the unemployment statistics. Their modus operandi may have changed since I was on the New Deal (several years ago), but if it's the same, it'll be a jobcentre clerk pretending to be your friend while wasting your time asking you why you're not getting replies, not getting interviews, not getting offered jobs etc...
Hadn't you worked out that one of the longest running & biggest job creation schemes is the staffing of jobcentres, the DWP and Benefits Agency?
FridgeMagnet
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Some twat went around bumping threads and insulting people on them. Didn't last long.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
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