muser said:England could easily beat these two, in their sleep.
Except that England, should they get so far, will have to play the first eleven of Nederland or Argentina.
Netherlands v Argentina
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Except that England, should they get so far, will have to play the first eleven of Nederland or Argentina.
muser said:
What do you mean 'we'?
With Scotland and Ireland having been eliminated, I'm for Nederland.
Thought Holland played badly, Argentina still couldnt get a goal.
Argentina do play total football in the sense that they can play with great skill and style, but on the otherhand there is no emabarresment in making the dirtiest fouls and diving in rolls of agony when ever they get the chance. Must be a nightmare to play against.
Argentina do play total football in the sense that they can play with great skill and style, but on the otherhand there is no emabarresment in making the dirtiest fouls and diving in rolls of agony when ever they get the chance. Must be a nightmare to play against.
zed said:
Watching these two teams tonight made the England players look like they'd only started playing the game 6 months ago.
Different planet.
Totally agree. Holland were playing catch up in the first half, but got to grips with Argentina in the second. Argentina tired as the game went on. But after the ivory coast game I know they can play at a canter and then come to life in a second.
Holland without Robben don't have much of a cutting edge, their main chances came from set pieces, playing the ball around nicely is fine but they didn't really threaten. He'll be back for the next match and I think they'll do Portugal.
Argies looked like they could step up a gear at will but couldn't be arsed. Still the team to beat IMO.
Argies looked like they could step up a gear at will but couldn't be arsed. Still the team to beat IMO.
William of Walworth said:Argentina 3 Holland 2.
For no other reason than I want to see an exciting match, I haven't seen Argentina yet
Sorry, I wasn't concentrating when I posted that -- I meant the Serbia/Ivory Coast match of course
Argentina vs Holland
It wasn't THAT bad a game, still some fair passing on display from both sides.
Agree with the others saying that both sides were very far from giving 100%, for obvious reasons, and neither side was the first eleven. But even given those limitations, I think England, and others, should be concerned with the passing, attacking and skills of BOTH sides (although Holland's midfield wasn't much cop tonight). So from that point of view Magneze is showing blind faith, not much to fear from either side my arse!!!
And muser, I don't recall JTG ever saying England would walk through sides like this easily ....
It wasn't THAT bad a game, still some fair passing on display from both sides.
Agree with the others saying that both sides were very far from giving 100%, for obvious reasons, and neither side was the first eleven. But even given those limitations, I think England, and others, should be concerned with the passing, attacking and skills of BOTH sides (although Holland's midfield wasn't much cop tonight). So from that point of view Magneze is showing blind faith, not much to fear from either side my arse!!!
And muser, I don't recall JTG ever saying England would walk through sides like this easily ....
"Jesus" in that he believes that he can float in the air, yeah? Although his attempts usually result in collapsing and rolling around the floor holding various unrelated and untouched parts of his body. He is a good player though, I'll give you that much.
Not up to Riquelme's standard though. Time seems to slow down every time he gets the ball, which few if any other players seem to have.
Agree about Riquelme, but I also thought Tevez looked very useful too, and he's a second-string player for Argentina!!
An interesting exercise when evaluating the respective merits of England and Argentina is to ponder which of the England team would get into Argentinas first team.
I'm pretty sure that a coherent argument could be made that even Rooney wouldn't get into the current Argentinian side.
Same game, different planet.
I'm pretty sure that a coherent argument could be made that even Rooney wouldn't get into the current Argentinian side.
Same game, different planet.
zed said:
So the mighty carragher or the resilent terry wouldn't feature for Argentina?
How about the 'greatest crosser of the ball' beckham, or the talented mr lampard. Surely Crouchiniho would cause peckerman to pick him above tevez or crespo. I don't know what you must be thinking
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stavros said:
Spot on description! How does that happen, though? Is it just because the other players generally stand back from him? Reminds me a little bit of how Valderrama used to play for Colombia - never broke into a run. "Languid" was the word the Guardian used for Riquelme, which seems about right. http://football.guardian.co.uk/worldcup2006/story/0,,1800201,00.html
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Class player but what's going on with his neck?Jo/Joe said:
Neanderthals distant cousin - Homo football:
Surely a contender for the ugliest player of the tournament.
pocketscience said:Class player but what's going on with his neck?
Neanderthals distant cousin - Homo football:
Surely a contender for the ugliest player of the tournament.
He had an accident involving a kettle full of boiling water as a wee baby, burned his face, neck and chest. His current team offered to get a plastic surgeon to fix it, but he refused.
MooChild said:
Serious??
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It's time the world recognizes Tevez's brilliance. Do any of you remember him at the 2004 Olympics?
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