Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe - Boris Johnson's death sentence

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by hash tag, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. agricola

    agricola a genuine importer of owls

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  2. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

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  3. agricola

    agricola a genuine importer of owls

    Almost certainly - I just can't decide whether it is aimed at the Iranians or May.
     
  4. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Much like 'economic competence', surely this sort of thing is in territory the tories have always prided themselves on having a (false) reputation for being great at. They are killing the myths that get them into power!
     
  5. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    "I don't know what she was doing in Iran"

    Well neither do I, which is precisely why you don't see me on the national news mouthing off on the subject :facepalm:
     
  6. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    Johnson's appointment has never been a joke, not even a bad one. It was always an insult, to the British people and frankly everyone else in the world.
     
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  7. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    They obviously don't give a fuck about poor
    Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe that's for sure. Collatoral damage.
     
  8. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

    the cunts are hanging her out to dry to try and save johnson. Wouldn't be surprised if we see some articles leaked to the press about how she wasn't actually on holiday but involved with things she shouldn't have - plus maybe a bit of character assassination.
     
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  9. xenon

    xenon Carne Por la Machina

    Nah. Too crude and would spectacularly fail. They're blaming the staff and throwing chaff instead.
    Back to brexit tmw.
     
  10. CRI

    CRI Registered Chooser

    Fuck all of them. Poor woman.

    Medical concern for Briton held in Iran

     
  11. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    Granting NZR diplomatic status as a way of getting her back - as floated by Number 10 today - would obviate the need for Johnson to do anything further, and make it easier to get shot of him. And Gove, in a perfect world.
     
  12. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    i would be very surprised if they did grant her diplostatus
     
  13. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

    You say that, but to initially become an MP Someone must have voted for him :confused::mad:
    There is no accounting for taste
     
  14. killer b

    killer b Feat. Sean Paul

    He was gifted a safe Tory seat, which had it's majority halved in the two years between the 2015 and 2017 elections.
     
  15. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    Don't think that's true. He stood for selection in Uxbridge against other candidates and won. No-one in the Tory leadership at the time would have been inclined to gift him anything, even if they could - and Tory constituency parties are difficult to suborn.
     
  16. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    There's no way this ruse could work, surely? I'd have thought diplomatic status has to be awarded before you enter a country.
    Otherwise you'd have countries granting their jailed citizens retroactive diplomatic status all over the shop.
     
  17. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    face saving all round? Iran gets to say 'see, spy all along, and those british wankers admitted it (to the home crowd). Here, we expel her and another of your diplomats for good measure. The days when you could act to undermine iran are long over, american lapog!'
     
  18. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    Grace Mugabe got away with it. She nutted someone in a South African nightclub (well, or something like that) and was given retroactive diplomatic protection.
     
  19. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yeh. is nzr in any sort of relationship with the british head of state?
     
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  20. gosub

    gosub ~#

    :eek::mad:'Floated' WTF You either do it or you don't mention it, cos it looks spooky as fuck.
     
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  21. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    I dunno, they are so inept that they could easily float the idea and then abandon it.
     
  22. gosub

    gosub ~#

    leaving her even more fucked
     
  23. Silas Loom

    Silas Loom The people have spoken, the bastards.

    Turns out the Guardian got it wrong and conflated diplomatic protection with diplomatic status. What they are talking about here is a formal escalation of negotiations, really.

    The Guardian liveblogger's retraction was explicit and contrite in exactly the way that Johnson's wasn't.
     
  24. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Space/time supply indicators near to zero

    Not going to happen bludz. You cannot just award bona fide diplomatic status & any associated protections to randoms, its not cricket & would set a terrible precedent. Also, in the case of diplomatic immunity, it gets very complicated - you need to get the approval of the country to waive their immunity status to allow one of their diplomats to be done. this is a rather rare occurrence. Giving her diplomatic status retrospectively ( unfeasible and virtually unheard of ) is not going to happen - and even if it did, it would require the Iranians to agree to apply for permission to us to drop our diplomatic waiver for her. We would look like twats and there is no selling point to Iran whatsoever. the impact for perfidious albion would be global if this was considered.

    Johnson - get on plane, go to your Iranian opposite, hang your head in shame, plead for mercy, lose some face.
     
  25. gosub

    gosub ~#

    Also, is this how we're running the country now? The PM checked with Laura Kunsberg, who thought it was a good idea, Robert Peston wasn't so sure so it was up to Andrew Neil whether it happened...
     
  26. not-bono-ever

    not-bono-ever Space/time supply indicators near to zero

    Johnson Admits His ‘Mistake’ Over British Woman Jailed in Iran

    Finally a retraction and public apology. roflz


    “I do apologise, I do apologise and of course I retract any suggestion that she was there in a professional capacity,” Johnson told Parliament in response to an urgent question by his Labour counterpart, Emily Thornberry.
    This is the second time this month Johnson has sought to justify his handling of the case to in Parliament. "It was my mistake," he told lawmakers on Monday, after previously suggesting his comments had simply been misinterpreted"
     
  27. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

  28. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

    What would you like to say to Johnson? Johnson to meet husband of jailed Briton
    I think I saw somewhere that his father has gone of to some far flung place to take part in a game show. Shame, great shame it is not BJ.
     
  29. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    Pretty much. Think of some stupid idea, tell the press, wait for twitter to explain exactly why the idea is stupid. It's cheaper and possibly quicker than hiring competent staff and running everything by them.
     
  30. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

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