Callie
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If I didn't know better, I'd say that you and isitme were one person on two logins, 'arguing' with 'each other'.
i was here first
Nature is your new god
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elbows
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Thats only one side of the story. Ideas are very powerful things, they take hold and shape what happens. Whether powerful people promote them or attempt to destroy them, ideas are stubborn, they can become almost immortal, the closest thing to actual gods.
butchersapron
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There's no seperation between power and theory, in fact theory adapts and is guided by power.
Right, i agree with you, but your OP - come on? It doesn't say what you've been forced to say now. There's a good, interesting debate in there.
that's kind of what i was saying
you'd never say 'it's the planet's way' or 'it's the will of the sun'
but that kind of makes as much sense as natural
Callie
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but to say 'the sun' or 'by the force of exothermic reactions caused by halophilic bacteria' would imply that everyone should understand the process by which something occured, where as if you want to speak generally and include most people the term natural encompasses that.
some things are natural by the above examples....lots of things arent, or are debateably.
is there a specific exmaple that relates to your original post?
some things are natural by the above examples....lots of things arent, or are debateably.
is there a specific exmaple that relates to your original post?
well you know how i go on. yes the OP was rubbish, but it was just about throwing out an idea which we can all expand on
i started the thread because i have heard lots of people of all political persuasions resort to 'well, it's natural, i mean look at.....'
and it isn't really fair, they are all natural
it's what you'd imagine of a political debate in the dark ages in europe and someone winning it by saying 'oh well god says....' and winning the argument like that
Most humans find God hard to comprehend. I dont find it hard - and i dont know why.
depends on how much God wants to show you. Im not sure we all see the exact same thing.
depends on how much God wants to show you. Im not sure we all see the exact same thing.
it doesn't surprise me, i was just saying
it's like how TV made politics from 1000 words into 5
i'm not starting a political party, I'm just saying something that occurs to me to talk about with people so we don't have to talk about halleluljah again
Sounds about right.
I ought to be good at editing, really, but terribly sorry to hvae destroyed the architectural beauty and simplicity of the previous ending, -- I had no idea, you didn't put up a sign saying keep off the grass,, and amen just means -so be it- apparently, it's a bit like "make it so".
Anyway, editing, yes, humour, no.
If everything's natural, then natural's a bit of a useless concept.
I don't know what this thread's about to be honest, I just rather agreed with what cheesy said, or to be both more exact and more pretentious, it resonated with me.
Anyway, editing, yes, humour, no.
If everything's natural, then natural's a bit of a useless concept.
I don't know what this thread's about to be honest, I just rather agreed with what cheesy said, or to be both more exact and more pretentious, it resonated with me.
Callie
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FridgeMagnet
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I'm not sure what this is supposed to be about really. I can't tell what arguments are being conflated here because, while I can think of quite a few which use "natural", none of them are really "leftie" ones.
Well the intangible beauty of this thread was created by me. and I'm gonna smite you for this
I was going to say that it was the best end of a thread ever, but then it wouldn't have been
Right well I'll look forward to being smitten.
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