butchersapron
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That's right - political theorists have never effcted anything. Certainly not today.
Does your mum come an clean the shit out of your bubble to stop you drowning or have you got someone else to do it?
Nature is your new god
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That's right - political theorists have never effcted anything. Certainly not today.
Does your mum come an clean the shit out of your bubble to stop you drowning or have you got someone else to do it?
Johnny Canuck3
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No, you've got it wrong. God told her to do the shitting. He's just the director of this scene.
Johnny Canuck3
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I was thinking about that sort of thing yesterday as well. i was wondering if old people who are going to die are more likely to find god cos they are scared of death or just if they know something we don't
you're a fucking smart guy ffs. you changed what i said then had a go at my life.
Johnny Canuck3
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Soldiers sometimes say they are like the Arm of God, doing some smiting.
Madusa would become the Butt of God, doing some shitting.
Madusa would become the Butt of God, doing some shitting.
Callie
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i don't care if old people think about god. i wonder what old people think about life wise (death wise) but am far too scared to ask any of those that i know. i don't want to know. death meh
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Callie
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he loves you really
Johnny Canuck3
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Nob off, look your OP. Look what at you said. It's wrong. Defend the idea that it's right. Because it's not.
Happy to join in on that. But not...well, whatever conclusion you're drawing.
oh yeah! looks well weird. Maybe god put it there.
well argue on equal terms then
i was saying that 'natural' has become a new word for 'gods will'
even if you are talking absolute sense you shouldn't resort to intangibles as a justification because it is anti humanist
Callie
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hes a double git
butchersapron
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Political theorist are in charge of lots of things.
Darwinism doesn't exist, the idea of natural selection has been used in many ways - that this is the case should tell you that political theorists can also be used in many ways, thus negating point #1
Don't know what you mean by first point. That monetarism and keynsianism are/were influential or not. Again, either way it undermines point #1
And doesn't have that much to do with your OP which i'm trying to talk about.
The way I see it though, If I shat in your bed and told you that god told me to do it, who are you to argue and say otherwise? It's totally natural and it's god will. God is forever the trump (lol) card.
Johnny Canuck3
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What if God told him to rub your nose in it?
Callie
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'natural' is only used as gods will by people who believe in god. hippies like it too. people wishing to pass off highly processed goods as 'natural' cos peoples initial thought is 'goodness! tress! little baby tapirs!'
natural is bollocks, i guess there no real definaition of natural so its open to abuse by neerdowells
I know God, and he would never suggest anything like that.
butchersapron
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No one argues in terms of Gods will *or* natural today sdo they?. If they did they would be laughed out of the poltical arena. Intersts have been disguised as gods will or nature in the past, today they're more likely to be portrayed as in the public good or what the market demands. Peop'e might recognise them as natural though (which isn't to say that they then jutify themselves in those same terms) This is what some people call reification - relations between things being constructed and viewed as relations between things.
Johnny Canuck3
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If I didn't know better, I'd say that you and isitme were one person on two logins, 'arguing' with 'each other'.
I don't think that political theorists have the same influence as people with power. it's power not theories that have power. capitalism was a 'concession', it will never change because of this imaginary thing like 'nature' just like we didn't get where we are because of this imaginary thing, unless you want to be reductionist, and then we might as well just all buy guns
what i'm trying to talk about is that people say things are 'natural' when nothing is natural to us, because what is natural to you isn't even natural to me and we are from the same country and agree about a lot
nothing is 'natural'. it's a made up word
elbows
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Yes. People sometimes talk about what they think is realistic due to 'human nature' though, thats still used to attempt to ridicule all sorts of political positions. I might be guilty of this occasionally because it is hard to think about how humanity might organise without drawing on our own expectations of humanity.
As for worshipping nature, at least this makes sense on one level, as we would not be doing so well without the planet or sun. If only the desire to worship and believe could be translated into protecting the things which we know are necessary to sustain life, we might be on to something?
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