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In a written response to a question by Andrew George MP in February 2009, Bridget Prentice, a parliamentary undersecretary at the Ministry of Justice, replied, "The Crown is the ultimate owner of all land in England and Wales (including the Isles of Scilly): all other owners hold an estate in land. Although there is some land that the Crown has never granted away, most land is held of the Crown as freehold or leasehold."
"the Land Registration Act 2002 put it, "the concepts of leasehold and freehold derive from medieval forms of tenure and are not ownership". What this means is that, in relation to land in the UK, we are all tenants on the basis of the feudal superiority of the Crown, a superiority created in 1066 and founded on legal norms that were created to uphold that same feudal superiority."

The great property swindle: why do so few people in Britain own so much of our land?


How do you feel about that JJ50?
 
In a written response to a question by Andrew George MP in February 2009, Bridget Prentice, a parliamentary undersecretary at the Ministry of Justice, replied, "The Crown is the ultimate owner of all land in England and Wales (including the Isles of Scilly): all other owners hold an estate in land. Although there is some land that the Crown has never granted away, most land is held of the Crown as freehold or leasehold."
"the Land Registration Act 2002 put it, "the concepts of leasehold and freehold derive from medieval forms of tenure and are not ownership". What this means is that, in relation to land in the UK, we are all tenants on the basis of the feudal superiority of the Crown, a superiority created in 1066 and founded on legal norms that were created to uphold that same feudal superiority."

The great property swindle: why do so few people in Britain own so much of our land?


How do you feel about that JJ50?
A lot of nonsense is spouted over this subject. :D Any land ownership is only worth the quality of the authority available to back up the claim. In the UK, that authority is the same as the one used to lock us up if we are convicted of crimes: 'The Crown'. It's a pretty powerful authority here, as it happens, making 'ownership' a rather strong concept. It means we can all have our land compulsorily taken away from us to build a road, etc, which we all already know, and is little different from anywhere else (better than many). Mostly it's worthy of a big 'so what', tbh.
 
How much land does the Royal Family actually own?
The bulk of the property owned by the Queen is held on her behalf by the Crown Estate, which operates as a real estate business and returns all of its profits to the Treasury, although the Queen then does receive a grant of 15 per cent of the total profits of the Estate from two years previous.

The group manages a property portfolio worth £12.4bn, and the latest available figures show that it delivered £329m to the Treasury for the 2015/2016 financial year.
Inside the British Monarchy's £13 billion property empire

A third of Britain STILL belongs to the aristocracy | Daily Mail Online
More than a third of Britain’s land is still in the hands of a tiny group of aristocrats, according to the most extensive ownership survey in nearly 140 years.

In a shock to those who believed the landed gentry were a dying breed, blue-blooded owners still control vast swathes of the country within their inherited estates.

A group of 36,000 individuals – only 0.6 per cent of the population – own 50 per cent of rural land.
Scotland has the most inequitable land ownership in the west. Why?
Land means power, so Scotland's few hundred aristocrats can scarcely be expected to give up on four centuries of owning more than half of the country.
 
A lot of nonsense is spouted over this subject. :D Any land ownership is only worth the quality of the authority available to back up the claim. In the UK, that authority is the same as the one used to lock us up if we are convicted of crimes: 'The Crown'. It's a pretty powerful authority here, as it happens, making 'ownership' a rather strong concept. It means we can all have our land compulsorily taken away from us to build a road, etc, which we all already know, and is little different from anywhere else (better than many). Mostly it's worthy of a big 'so what', tbh.


I don't know. But it does seem that the monarchy owns a hell of a lot of land in the UK.

Over here the state can enforce a compulsory purchase of land but you can fight it. It's happened down the road from where I live. They set about a compulsory purchase of a man's bungalow. It's now 10 years on and he is still living there. He's refusing to leave. It's a small bungalow on half an acre. And they wanted to put a road through it.

I wonder if the Monarchy is pro Brexit? After all...They (monarchy and landed aristocracy) may not want to bow to the EU on land ownership and registration.
 
I want to live in a Republic.

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I don't know. But it does seem that the monarchy owns a hell of a lot of land in the UK.

Over here the state can enforce a compulsory purchase of land but you can fight it. It's happened down the road from where I live. They set about a compulsory purchase of a man's bungalow. It's now 10 years on and he is still living there. He's refusing to leave. It's a small bungalow on half an acre. And they wanted to put a road through it.

I wonder if the Monarchy is pro Brexit? After all...They (monarchy and landed aristocracy) may not want to bow to the EU on land ownership and registration.
Ah ok. Two separate issues, I think. The first is the one about how much land the monarchy owns, and the second the 'freedom of the land' nonsense about freeholds and the Crown. Perhaps compulsory purchase here is easier to enforce than in Ireland, I don't know, but things like roads don't get built here without public consultations. In practice, there are systems in place to give people a say, but a state will enforce its will over individual ownership rights everywhere. It is the state that gives those rights meaning in the first place after all.
 
Between the two Duchies, Balmoral and Sandringham the monarchy is a major private land owner. My rough calculation puts the total acerage at about 15% the size of the Crown Estate, which just happens to be the percentage of return they get off the Crown Estate.

So 100,000 heactres and a beneficial interest equivalent to the same again.
 
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Fuck it, I'll tell a joke then.

When thatcher popped it st Peter was off sick so jesus had to man the pearly gates. Thatch naturally assumed she was going to the good place for some fucking reason but when she got there jesus was quite apologetic but insistent that her name wasnt down and she wasn't coming in.

Ever the slimy politician thatcher tried to make the case for herself. 'last week I gave a tenner to children in need, the week before a tenner to the red Cross and the week before that a tenner to Christian aid.'

Jesus just looked like he didn't want to be there and just wanted to sack the whole fucking thing off - being a long haired hippy and all that he'd have rather gone and dropped some acid with George Harrison and Jim Morrison or something. but he had a reputation to uphold, what with being the son of God and everything.

There was nothing else for it - he'd have to go and ask God what to do. Off he went, returning about 5 minutes later wearing a huge grin. 'I've spoke to the old man and we've sorted it. Here's your 30 quid back now fuck off!'
 
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