Nationalist Mayday - Justice for england march

[kyser_soze]

Ah well, looked it over, saw Bushell so even if everyone else who's interested in it was a pinko, mung-bean eating Indianista (even more limp-armed than the Guardianistas, and more scared) I'd not associate with anything that has that bigotted tosser anywhere near it. I would also expect some contributions from Littlecock and Nick Pierari if Bushell's involved.

Shame really cos it's an issue I'm really interested in and would be happy to see resolved in the next 20 years in favour of 4 independent nations and get rid of this 'union' between nations.

 

[Idaho]

That's basically what you've had for hundreds of years. No fucker voted for Thatcher in Wales but she still ruled the country.

No fucker outside of Finchley voted for her but she still ruled the country.

 

[Belushi]

Er, it was the British Empire, not English. There were plenty of Scottish and Welsh involved, thank you very much.

The Welsh were only involved because they'd been copnquered by the English, like the Irish, Indians, Zulus etc.

The Scottish case is different.

 

[Idaho]

The Welsh were only involved because they'd been copnquered by the English, like the Irish, Indians, Zulus etc.

The Scottish case is different.

The Scots weren't conquered by the English?

 

[untethered]

Shame really cos it's an issue I'm really interested in and would be happy to see resolved in the next 20 years in favour of 4 independent nations and get rid of this 'union' between nations.

Oddly enough, that's the BNP's policy.

Don't worry, I'm sure they have plenty of others that you don't agree with.

 

[Belushi]

The Scots weren't conquered by the English?

No, Act of Union 1707.

 

[JimPage]

Jim Page has fantasies of cable st, don't be silly, this is a legitimate event and you will look ridiculous 'protesting' against it ffs, there is even a procession of vintage cars on it!

legitimate ? its a march by fascists and will be dealt with, hopefully, by London Antifascists in the usual manner.

 

[untethered]

legitimate ? its a march by fascists and will be dealt with, hopefully, by London Antifascists in the usual manner.

Yeah, you're going to sell newspapers at them.

 

[rhys gethin]

Why can a MP representing a Scottish constituency vote on matters regarding (say) the NHS in England, basically the West Lothian question.

Considering that the English have been able to force their shitty tories on the rest of us for two hundred years, and still have a huge majority in the UK Parliament, that is a bit rich for some - though I am myself, of course, in tears for your dreadful predicament!

 

[liampreston]

Yeah, you're going to sell newspapers at them.

Heh, QFT...

 

[Andy the Don]

Considering that the English have been able to force their shitty tories on the rest of us for two hundred years, and still have a huge majority in the UK Parliament, that is a bit rich for some - though I am myself, of course, in tears for your dreadful predicament!

Yes of course its all the fault of the English..

The Tories did have Scottish & (I believe) Welsh seats during the 1980's.

 

[Idaho]

No, Act of Union 1707.

So you are suggesting that the Act of Union was one of partnership and not cession?

 

[Belushi]

So you are suggesting that the Act of Union was one of partnership and not cession?

Heh, your not sucking me into that old debate about whether the Scots really wanted the Act of Union or not

 

[Andy the Don]

So you are suggesting that the Act of Union was one of partnership and not cession?

Well many Scots were for the Union as they saw it as a bulwark against the return of the Catholic Stewart monarchy.

 

[JHE]

Yeah, you're going to sell newspapers at them.

They'll sell newspapers to each other.

They'll deal with the Nartzees by waving lollipops, hiding behind police barricades and shouting fearsome slogans about 'smashing' this that and the other...

 

[rhys gethin]

Yes of course its all the fault of the English..

The Tories did have Scottish & (I believe) Welsh seats during the 1980's.

Didn't say it was anyones fault - just get a bit bored with these dreadful sufferings of yours, terrible as they are. Imagine other people having a vote on what you do, even if you are in a huge majority! Oh wicked, cruel world! Don't know about Scotland, but the tories have been a minority in Cymru since working men got the vote but have usually had a majority in the itself-English-majority Parliament, the only one we had. The English sympathy then was, of course, deeply heartwarming! The tories get a few seats in Cymru sometimes - and the Liberals get seats in England too. The point?

 

[lights.out.london]

I get very nervous when any group starts demanding its 'rights'.

I remember very little 'class solidarity' eminating northwards from England during the rape of Scotland in the 1970s and 1980s. It's hard to be sympathetic.

The British Empire? No, it was not. It was the English Empire in all but name, with plenty of Scots and Welsh and Irish happy to be lackeys to the English establishment.

Give an Englishman 'rights'? Sure. Go ahead. Have all the rights you want...

 

[Streathamite]

Er, it was the British Empire, not English. There were plenty of Scottish and Welsh involved, thank you very much.

and irish too, actually

 

[Nigel]

Apparentely Solidarity are holding their launchig meeting this weekend in London?
Does anyone know anything about this?

 

[smokedout]

Posh Fash Throw Down Gauntlet

 

[JHE]

Smokey Wizards Mobilise Against English Democracy

 

[smokedout]

good to see the far righters on the boards displaying their usual level of debate

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

The British Empire? No, it was not. It was the English Empire in all but name, with plenty of Scots and Welsh and Irish happy to be lackeys to the English establishment.

Gotta love the spin on this one

 

[Frank1]

Hello,
The English Democrats are a completely democratic party, and the Justice for England march welcomes everybody, all the people of England, no matter what your religion, race, colour etc, everyone is welcome.

 

[mk12]

Thanks Frank!

Such a nice man

 

[Karen Eliot]

Hello,
The English Democrats are a completely democratic party, and the Justice for England march welcomes everybody, all the people of England, no matter what your religion, race, colour etc, everyone is welcome.

Hi Frank, why hasn't your Trade Union front wesbite been updated for nearly two years now? Is it not a 'going concern'? How are the Thrid way and The Freedom Party, your fraternal parties doing?

 

[Wilf]

Hello,
The English Democrats are a completely democratic party, and the Justice for England march welcomes everybody, all the people of England, no matter what your religion, race, colour etc, everyone is welcome.

Hi Frank - Dubversion/Rich Tea/£4.99/fuck off

 

[bluestreak]

is anyone still daft enought o believe that a few marches and the holy grail of parliamentary democracy will be theirs. fuck 'em, let em march. we'll do our thing, they'll do theirs, see how it goes eh.

besdies which, i seem to recall that the whole union thing started when we english put the king of scotland in charge of the whole bloody thing.

 

[Frank1]

English Democracy

Hello again,
I can only repeat what I said earlier,
The English Democrats are a completely democratic party, and the Justice for England march welcomes everybody, all the people of England, no matter what your religion, race, colour etc, everyone is welcome.

That includes all the people on this forum if you feel that England needs its own parliament, or the west lothian question needs answering, or the Barnet formula needs to be addressed, or that regionalisation of England needs to be sorted out, or that the English question as a whole needs to be sorted.

 

[Frank1]

Hello,
Come on now people, the Justice for England march is a march for everyone. We welcome anyone, and everyone. The march is for all the people of England. We realise that May Day is a day for marching, but the Justice for England people chose this day because it is the 300th anniversary of the union, not because others march on that day.

Here are some links to the reasons we are marching:

http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/notes/snpc-02586.pdf

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=51&id=34822004

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/718353.stm

http://www.palgrave.com/pdfs/1403992827.pdf

Happy reading