National Action to be proscribed as a "Terrorist Organisation"

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Magnus McGinty, Dec 11, 2016.

  1. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    As does the NHS, yet it's members drive bombs into airports, or become the most prolific serial killers ever to walk these shores...

    As with any organisation, some people will be admitted who should not have been, and others will go bad while they are in.

    The issues surrounding this episode will be what flags were seen and not acted on, and what action those who saw those flags - assuming they existed - did about them.
     
  2. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    I do hope its army rules that if someones a raging fascist you are supposed to flag that up as a concern, even if its a colleague.
     
  3. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Obviously National Action are proscribed but is there anything in the employment rules stopping recruits being members of other 'extremist' groups that are not specifically proscribed, EDL or some such? I believe the Police have such restrictions.

    Basically have these guys just not revoked their membership when it got banned.
     
  4. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    It is, the issue will be whether anyone outside this group knew about their proclivities, and - if they did - what they did about that knowledge.
     
  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    i understand that if you know about this sort of thing and you don't tell the authorities it is easy to end up in the shit.
     
  6. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    the edl not a membership organisation.
     
  7. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

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  8. krink

    krink I'll do it this afternoon

    is that a metaphor or a semaphore?
     
  9. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Really? They missed a trick there then. Trying to flog crappy hoodies when not even collecting any subs.
     
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  10. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Danny that's what I grew up on (fuck East Anglia). Did you too? I thought you were in Scotland?
     
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  11. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge Warning: posts may cause vasovagal presyncope

    It used to come on at the end of Tales of the Unexpected. Nowadays you'd never see that bit, because they reduce the credits to a box while the continuity speaks over it. But back then credits played right through to the end.

    (I grew up in Grampian but was rezoned to STV, who made Taggart).
     
  12. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yes
     
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  13. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

    charges
    Two British soldiers have been charged with neo-Nazi terror offences

     
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  14. extra dry

    extra dry Happy to be here

    Actionista Nationally. A-NAL for short.
     
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  15. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Something i saw on facebook suggested at least one of these four if not all was an entryist and part of a conscious programme for NA members to join the ranks and recruit and spread. The post was unsubstantiated though.
     
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  16. dylanredefined

    dylanredefined Not a house elf a tiger

    Unless they are causing a problem it would probably be dismissed as just being an oddball. If it is picked up they get fucked over and kicked out pretty sharpish. Unless they think they are doing it to just get out when they will just get fucked over.

    Yeah, you not allowed to be in any extremist groups and should own up to being in any previously.
     
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  17. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    Two obvious skinheads tried to join hastings TA to in their own words to get weapons training for the coming race war :eek:.
    OC was trying to find remember what forms you fill in too ban Nazis or just post them to the eastborne platoon where they'd fit in :facepalm:. But the pratts gave up on the three mile run so that was that:D
     
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  18. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

  19. Kaka Tim

    Kaka Tim Crush the Saboteurs!

    One of my mate's dad's was one of the people arrested in this article.


    Pensioner charged with manufacturing guns after raid on boats on Leeds canal

    He was released without charge. He was seen talking to one of suspects (they have neighbouring boats) and was hard stopped leaving the marina - machine gun to head, full swat team macho aggro treatment, thrown in a cell for 12 hours then let go without any apology (hes a 72 year old with a heart condition).

    Anyway - apparently the person manufacturing and modifying the guns is some right wing nutjob. Weather he is connected with national action i dont know - but he apparently did have connections with Thomas Mair (jo cox's murderer)- who used a home modifed weapon.

    There was also an incident in july in Selby (8 miles east of leeds) where police raided a mans home after he had been arrested on "suspicion of racially or religiously aggravated harassment" and criminal damage. They found "hazardous material". I cant find any follow up info wrt charges or what the material was.

    Suspected hazardous material found in Selby flat after man's arrest over racial offence

    So we have what looks like a number of quite old men with extreme right wing views connected with possession and manufacture of weapons and explosives - and in one case a political assassination - all living within 10 miles of each other.

    They may be all completely unconnected - but at the very least it shows that there are number of far right individuals out there who are making and stockpiling weapons and one who has used these to commit a terrorist murder.

    cant help feeling that if they were jihadis the dots would be very publicly being joined by the security services and media. The 7/7 bombers came from the same area and the media were all over hyde park and beeston in leeds and nearby dewsbury and batley looking for the factors that had created the west yorkshire "axis of evil".
     
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  20. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    The media arnt intrested in right wing terrorists who've not actually managed anything right wing killers tend to have have left any group they had links to as the nazis dont actually fo anything.
     
  21. malatesta32

    malatesta32 Not Serb. No, Really!

    there must be a load of far right blokes well over 50 who jacked it in a while ago cos of infighting, pointlessness or tired of being hoofed off the street by antifascists. they can still have the same views but are not visible with usual bunch of scrotes cos they got sick of the company. imagine, hanging round with the NF? what a bunch of ne'er do wells!
     
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  22. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    :(
     
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  23. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    There are such a group, of whom I and others are aware
     
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  24. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    “Roman sword” :eek:

     
  25. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yeh. the intention was the mp would die from tetanus.
     
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  26. Magnus McGinty

    Magnus McGinty Wh♂️

    What’s wrong with British swords?
     
  27. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yeh british swords for british mps :mad:
     
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  28. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    I imagine much of the investigation into the allegations was predicated on crime scene spatha analysis
     
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  29. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    That post is a crime scene itself.
     
  30. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    Just gladius to be here :thumbs:
     
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