Narnia bag of shite

[secretsquirrel]

Saw it, almost fell asleep a couple of times, didn't *get* me the way Lord of the Rings did - made me realise how thin CS Lewis is compared to Tolkien - really showed up the shortcomings. Faintly pleasurable nostalgia for when I read Lion, Witch, Wardrobe. However, the kids loved it which was the main thing - and Tilda Swinton rocks as per usual

Now, as well as Philip Pullman, *I* want to see 'The Dark is Rising' series made into some movies - Arthurian legend, battles between unspecified 'dark' and 'light' forces, found it really quite scary as a kid and think they'd make excellent films.

 

[Brainaddict]

at the risk of inciting more hatred, here's quite a reasonable piece about the religious significance of the film:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1665903,00.html

 

[jannerboyuk]

at the risk of inciting more hatred, here's quite a reasonable piece about the religious significance of the film:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,5673,1665903,00.html

I thought the piece did exactly what it criticised - looked for offence in people criticising the film. So what if people find a xian message dodgy and FFS who anywhere compared xianity with nazism? No one. Same with the rest really - finding certain developments within xianity worrying is perfectly valid depending on the facts. The idea that you hold fire unless the development is kill the outsiders is nonsense - the road to that is pretty long and if more people had been concerned about how both islam and xianity had been heading we wouldn't be so surprised at the suicide bombers or the "b52's for christ" brigade.
And how does she you know the criticism is mindless? The guardians penchant for endless lefty baiting is becoming very tiresome.

 

[internetstalker]

What a load of utter fucking toss.

Neither my 6 nor 8 year old were there for the Christian allegory you twat and they loved it.

I'm really bored of the whole "ooh it's just thinly veiled Christianity" shit. I didn't spot it as a kid and even if I had, so fucking what?

Pisses me off.

seconded!!

 

[Herbert Read]

Clearly you can't tell the difference between someone being upset, and someone who doesn't give a toss for your opinion.

Twat.

Take my advice dont read my posts, increase your own joy and well being, do one and be gone you are inconsequential to me...............

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Did everyone else miss the Pagan references?

You have a four children each representing a part of the year. You have a winter queen who kills the summer king during a seaonal change. Then, you have the reverse. You have fawns, centaurs, griffens, unicorns ... all pagan references.

BTW: Tilda Swinton did rock. I kept rooting for the White Witch all through the movie. I think her costume designer should be sacked. Whoever designed those clunky dresses did a disservise to the whole film. Tilda Swinton should have had costumes that enhanced her natural grace, not stiffled it.

 

[kalidarkone]

Ive just been to see this -it was ok a bit cheesy though.... I loved seeing the fauns and centaurs though

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Simple, simple, simple,and kind of awkward. Sort of like what you'd get if you tried to make a movie out of Rupert the Bear, using humans instead of bears and badgers.

Also, you realize that the christian allegory translates well into a children's fantasy made to take young minds off of the Blitz. There's a certain attraction to that. Christianity is like philosophy dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, but that's how it has to be if it's going to reach every illiterate and lousy peasant living under a rock on the heath, and make him into a believer, and if it's going to have the legs to carry through to a time when one of its adherents controls the power to end the world.

It's pretty clever. Simple but elegant. It had to be somebody pretty smart to come up with something like that.

 

[sparkling]

I've read the books both as a child and then later to my own sons so know the stories pretty well. I thought the film was quite faithful to the book although I did think the Queen was not nasty enough really. Sheila Hancock did a brilliant queen's voice in a cartoon version.

Its not an adult film and if you were ten years old you would probably love it and maybe feel inspired to read the books.

I got a bit bored and fidgety and next time I'm kidnapping a child to take with me.....<evil voice and offers turkish delight to unsuspecting kiddies>

 

[In Bloom]

Yep and why were none of the other countries bothered by Sauron?

Where do you think the bloody great human armies with the elephants came from? And Sauron would never dare to attack the lands across the sea, he'd get owned good style

 

[Pingu]

oliphaunts...


the southern parts of middle earth (harad etc) were under Saurons dominion it was the west which stood against him as these were the lands once ruled by numenor and later on the dunedain (same thing sort of). Also the north once the withc king of angmar had been hoofed out (he was the lord of the nazgul.. a fallen man of numenor who by his greed for imortality took one of the nine rings intended for men)

and had sauron gone across the sea to the lands in the west he would have been pwned, douged, eric and ernied to fuck. it would have been boom headshot city. a bit like playing CT on assault when there are 15 T players and two CTs (one of whom is a shite bot).


anyhow

i liked narnia a nice bit of escapism

 

[Red Faction]

just come back from seeing the film at the ritzy
im disappointed
the CGI wasn't great
the battle scenes were poo
they could have made the film a 12A and put some better effort in
edmund and the older girl (not lucy) pissed me off no end

but the youngest girl and the fawn were pretty cool

this fuss everyone is making about christian propaganda
they can go fuck themselves
you'll see anything if you look hard enough and want to believe it

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

The youngest girl is very good. Usually really young child actors are a pain in the ass, but she wasn't.

 

[In Bloom]

oliphaunts...

Oh come off it, they were elephants, Frodo and Sam were just a bit thick

 

[Red Faction]

The youngest girl is very good. Usually really young child actors are a pain in the ass, but she wasn't.

ill second that
she was awesome

the youngest boy tho...

 

[Idris2002]

Not seen the film but I read that one of the actors is a 'Skandar Keynes'.

Any relation of John Maynard?

 

[brixtonvilla]

I liked it - went to see it with my class of 9/10/11 year olds, who really enjoyed it. I thought it looked a bit thin in places, but that's the original source material. I was talking to a (Christian) colleague who also saw it & is a big CS Lewis fan - the point she made was that if you get the allegorical bits, you get them, and if you don't, you don't. The story is still involving anyway.

Can't agree with Red Faction - I thought Edward was rather good. Tilda Swinton was awesome, though. It would have been so easy to make a campy/cartoony villain, but her performance was just so... *looks for a marginally less wanky word than "nuanced"*

 

[Fledgling]

Having read the books as a child and having enjoyed them a lot, I was really keen on seeing the film. Unfortunately what seems incredible when you're a kid can appear a bit tame when you're in ur twenties but the film was still enjoyable except for the kids all around me, one familly just sat and ate for the entire film, amazing stomach power there.

I'm still not sure why such a fuss is made aobut the Christian allegory though. I read the books and never found the allegory, they were just very entrtaining. In fact the books would have been ruined by the curreny cynicism and slating which is being carried out for bizarre reasons. What I really can't get is why some people take such offence to Christianity as opposed to other ideologies. If a film came out with a Jewish allegory, who'd say a word, answer no one. Just face facts, Christian propaganda exists just like all other propaganda, do you think a Christian writer should have sent out a message that was avowedly secular and PC? Why single out Christianity ANd why make such a fuss about the film. If it's not your thing don't watch it, but let the rest of us watch and enjoy,

allegory does not = propaganda does not = everyone believing the message.


Or perhaps the critics are trying to save us all because they've found the one true way.

I hope this post pisses a few people off.

 

[Prince Rhyus]

Ooh...the special effects were shockingly bad.

For a start the actors were not shivering so the snow was obviously fake. It was supposed to be the middle of winter. There were too many scenes with studio acting on top of scenic background.

And really, no wartime english schoolboy would adopt a 'God Bless America' pose for love nor money.

Edmund just didn't have it in him. He was far too polite!

 

[Pingu]

the only thing that bothered me was the total lack of tactics in that battle.

now...


he had the high ground...

a numerically inferior force

no nukes or serious artillery was in play

so logically he should have stayed put and made the white queen come to him


I dunno


totally ruined that bit of the film for me...



(*takes tounge out of cheek*)


ffs it was a bit of escapism

 

[walktome]

I took my little cousin to see it, I read the books as a kid but haven't in years, I liked it well enough.