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My Xbox 360 has died

ChrisFilter said:
What's.the.point.in.owning.a.Ferrari.when.you.can.only.drive.it.in.central.london.traffic?

Might.as.well.go.for.the.TVR.that.can.drive.anywhere.
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Ok fun as that was, let's leave it for another thread eh?

ChrisFilter said:
Yeah, more than fair enough. Just hope your PS3 DVD drive doesn't break ;)
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Yeah, don't want to though, was thoroughly enjoying the 360 and looking forward to getting online and playing some games with you guys...:(
 
Don't fuck about with MS go start back to shop I did get new one. keep moaning for discount for a game or ask for full money back.

Go buy xbox from some were else once you got money back if they don't play.
 
Tried changing the fuse, even though apparently you can't get 10am fuses anywhere only 9 or 13, and nothing...
 
if a fuse blows on low power electronics, its never the fuse thats at fault, 10amp at 240v would mean the device sucked 200amps at 12volts to blow the fuse, suffice to say its utterly fucked.
 
Argos cunts tried to palm me off with a line about sending it off for repair. I gave the a fucking ear full and they replaced it right there.

Going home now to hook it up, fingers crossed this one lasts!
 
Them 'offering to send it off' is a bit of a grey area I think as shops are supposed to facilitate either a replacement or refund; whatever is the most expedient and effective. I think in some respects they can actually get away with this. Of course, as discovered, kicking off is the way to go.
 
Awesome Wells said:
Them 'offering to send it off' is a bit of a grey area I think as shops are supposed to facilitate either a replacement or refund; whatever is the most expedient and effective. I think in some respects they can actually get away with this. Of course, as discovered, kicking off is the way to go.
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Well when I bought it the check out woman said they only replace it not refund, and I said here in the shop and she said yes. I repeated this to the idiot smirking twat at the returns desk and she said 'who said that' to which I :rolleyes: and repeated. She then said 'what she meant was-' and I cut her off saying 'I'm sorry but that wasn't clear, I was told before paying that you would replace it in store if there was a problem, there was nothing about it being sent for repair'. And she went round the corner to speak to her supervisor then issued a replacement. :D
 
Replacements always supersede refunds, which is only fair i suppose; the question is whether a replacement equates sending it off for repair. I'd never send a console to M$ to repair personally; when my 'preowned' broken down i took it back to gamestation who just gave me a new one. DOn't know what will happen once their one year in store preowned guarantee bollocks expires though. Probably my tough shit.
 
To be fair, you can't really blame companies for trying to be a little shonky when you've got to carry the costs of storing and returning a mere 20% and more of stock. The manufacturer have released a dud here, with the retailers left with a bundle of defective products to faff around with.

Hardly as if you go shopping in Argos for exemplary customer service, is it mind.

:D
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
Own.a.cutting.edge.machine.with.cool.spec.and.decent.games.
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At the risk of getting in to another boring Xbox Vs 360 fan-boy bun-fight...

Reliability issues (and yes, they are a real and painful issue) and Bluray functionality aside, The Xbox has proved time and again that it is the better machine as far as gaming power is concerned.

Now maybe this is still because developers are struggling to wring the full potential out of the PS3, but perhaps Sony should have thought of that when they designed the thing.

With a few notable exceptions, pretty much every cross platform release looks better and runs better on the Xbox 360 and without a mandatory install either.

The Xbox still has the best games library too and the best (for my taste) system exclusives.

With the exception of God of War 3 (which I am drooling over already) and possibly the new Drake game, I can't think of a single PS3 exclusive coming out in the next 12 months which has me even remotely interested. I will almost certainly buy any cross-platform releases on my Xbox too - unless something fundamental shifts in the quality of PS3 ports in comparison to the Xbox.

Don't get me wrong - I love my Bluray player, but the thing seems to get less and less usage as a games console as time goes on.

:)
 
tarannau said:
To be fair, you can't really blame companies for trying to be a little shonky when you've got to carry the costs of storing and returning a mere 20% and more of stock. The manufacturer have released a dud here, with the retailers left with a bundle of defective products to faff around with.

Hardly as if you go shopping in Argos for exemplary customer service, is it mind.

:D
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It's shitty for all concerned, sadly the only option would be for argos to tell MS to do one and refuse to stock it until they sort out quality issues.

I'd be interested to hear how much a returned product costs the retailer in terms of faff, and whether they pass that on to the manufacturer. Well, slightly curious in a nosy way at least.
 
Swarfega said:
At the risk of getting in to another boring Xbox Vs 360 fan-boy bun-fight...

Reliability issues (and yes, they are a real and painful issue) and Bluray functionality aside, The Xbox has proved time and again that it is the better machine as far as gaming power is concerned.

Now maybe this is still because developers are struggling to wring the full potential out of the PS3, but perhaps Sony should have thought of that when they designed the thing.

With a few notable exceptions, pretty much every cross platform release looks better and runs better on the Xbox 360 and without a mandatory install either.

The Xbox still has the best games library too and the best (for my taste) system exclusives.

With the exception of God of War 3 (which I am drooling over already) and possibly the new Drake game, I can't think of a single PS3 exclusive coming out in the next 12 months which has me even remotely interested. I will almost certainly buy any cross-platform releases on my Xbox too - unless something fundamental shifts in the quality of PS3 ports in comparison to the Xbox.

Don't get me wrong - I love my Bluray player, but the thing seems to get less and less usage as a games console as time goes on.

:)
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I'm looking forward to getting metal gear solid, that was my favourite game on the original PS. I'd have liked gears of war, but I'll live with the other FPS games.

I don't think there's too much in the gameplay, I've played on both and struggle to see much difference - I'd think TV and hi-fi quality have a greater effect. It could be certain games aren't ported that well which I've yet to try.

I'd argue that the Xbox currently has the greater share of developer effort, thus digging into the amount of resource that can be put into optimising for the PS3 - how that might change as the PS3 market develops I don't know (assuming that it does develop). Sony's only significant fault was not being first to market, MS got there but are now paying quite a price with a physically flawed machine. Thankfully it's MS paying it, Kid_Eternity and others have at least got (touch wood) working boxes.

The two consoles are at different stages in their life cycles, I'll be interested to see where the PS3 goes over the coming year or so.

I'm also not really bothered by the mandatory install, it's only the once and as far as I gather that's more to do with on-line updating than anything else - certainly it downloaded some bits and pieces for Drake, Mirror's Edge and Farcry.

My biggest pisser with it is that I can't get ITV catch-up to work as it thinks the PS3 is a mobile phone! Does the Xbox have this problem as well?
 
tarannau said:
To be fair, you can't really blame companies for trying to be a little shonky when you've got to carry the costs of storing and returning a mere 20% and more of stock. The manufacturer have released a dud here, with the retailers left with a bundle of defective products to faff around with.

Hardly as if you go shopping in Argos for exemplary customer service, is it mind.

:D
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Fuck them. If they don't like it they shouldn't stock it.
 
My elite is dying as we speak. I get intermittent moments of green ring joy followed by thre red rings for a couple of hours. If this goes back to the shop (where, sods law, it will work of course) i will want either a refund or a ps3 instead. No bloody way i'm putting up with more of Microsofts crap.
 
A mate went through his third in a couple of years yesterday, the red ring of death glowing. The swear words were quite choice.

He's a huge xbox fan, with over 40 games, so there's not really much option for him. But don't get sucked in kids.
 
mine was bought 'preowned' from gamestation. My concern is that the shop guarantee ends in march; if they replace it again (which they were very good about before) this will be three consoles i've used - all elites; what's worse is that if it goes down after march i'm left with a £250 doorstop. (Preowned shouldn't really make a difference either; the item was bought legitimately from a retailer.)
 
i don't want to give M$ another chance at this point; it's not worth it for me at all. Sod's law that as soon as the warranty from gamestation expires, so will the box.
 
Don't get me wrong: I don't think anyone should give MS their money for the Xbox. They're taking the piss out of the consumer and using their ill-gotten cash reserves to prop up a faulty product in the hope of breaking another market. It's a crap product released by wankers in the main. I'm slightly sad that they're beginning to turn around that nearly billion dollar loss on the Xbox division - they deserved a hefty hit for the shit product.

Trouble is, once you've got sucked in it's tough to leave your games and accessories behind. I wouldn't recommend anyone purchase an Xbox to begin with that in mind, nor ever recommend the faulty pieces of shit to anyone.
 
The shop gave me a brand new (ie completely different) preowned elite. I wanted to swap it for a ps3 but they decided that wasn't allowed. However i did persuade them to give me a new one year shop guarantee. Only loss is the 12 hours saved of Oblivion which I don't relish doing again. Maybe they've patched gears 2 in the meantime and I can play that instead? No? What a surprise.

Curiously they would only honour a trade in toward a ps3; that is they offered me a 'refund' equal to the trade in value of an elite (£180). According to them (which i dispute) when it comes to refunds they don't have to honour the amount paid because the item has had some use in the meantime and has also depreciated. This sound like balls to me as that's not what I paid and it aint the customer's fault that things depreciate and break down.
 
Oh Tarannau :(:D

To those of you that have problem after problem, where do you put your 360? Is it flat, or on it's end? Is it on carpet or on a TV stand or similar? Is it in little cubby hole, or does it have room to be breathe?

From what I can see, the people who's 360s break, have repeated breaks.
 
ChrisFilter said:
Oh Tarannau :(:D

To those of you that have problem after problem, where do you put your 360? Is it flat, or on it's end? Is it on carpet or on a TV stand or similar? Is it in little cubby hole, or does it have room to be breathe?

From what I can see, the people who's 360s break, have repeated breaks.
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that's because Microsoft replace them with "refurbished" models.

My Xbox was stood on its end, by the side of the TV cabinet on the wooden floor, with nothing covering the ventilation holes. It was about a foot away from the end of the radiator, which may have been a factor.. but then so is my telly and Sky+ which have both been fine for the past however long.

And that still doesn't explain the massive failure rates... it might explain the odd one or two but not 20%.

You're victim blaming. :D
 
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