My Veggie Argument

[scifisam]

That's really interesting. Since Mr Poot can't cook (it's quite incredible to watch! And he's supposed to be clever!) that may be the solution. He seems to favour wrong wrong wrong tinned meat, like Stagg chilli, and today (this is horrible) I was out and he and the Little 'Un had a TIN of spagghetti bolognaise between them. So perhaps we should feast on lentil dishes during the week and at weekends he can feed himself with unidentified animal parts until the cows come home (in a tin )

It sounds fair to me too. A bit of unhealthy food at the weekends isn't going to harm either of them (not that meat is necessarily unhealthy, but it sounds like the kind he likes is).

Then maybe you could get some nice meat in to cook for him on special occasions.

The kid being mostly veggie really won't be a problem. Look up 'vegetarian children' online and there's tons of info out there. Vegan children can be difficult, but veggie not so much.

 

[SaskiaJayne]

A prawn cocktail's like a mass murder

Makes note to order the stuffed garlic mushrooms on next dinner date.

 

[moose]

He's got a point about the prawns, tbf.

 

[Ms T]

Interesting. I'm not a vegetarian, but I'd be inclined to compromise a bit and cook him meat occasionally. It's a partnership, innit?

Why do you say you can't afford meat on your wages, btw? Does Mr Poot not contribute towards the household budget?

One of my friends has just done the opposite thing - she's giving up vegetarianism after 20 years because her husband is a committed carnivore and her children eat meat too, so it's easier for her to change.

 

[_angel_]

Nothing wrong with Veggie kids but I don't think it's fair to say your OH should have to eat veggie.

I don't mind making meat up to a point but don't ask me to stuff any turkeys.
(I'm veggie btw)

 

[chymaera]

Not all meat eaters eat kfc or mcdonalds

I would rather burn the evil places down than eat any of the "food" they serve.

 

[Belushi]

Is it safe for the toddler to have a mainly veggie diet?

Most of my Indian friends have never eaten meat so Iwouldn't worry about it as long as their eating a balanced veggie diet.

 

[_angel_]

Most of my Indian friends have never eaten meat so Iwouldn't worry about it as long as their eating a balanced veggie diet.

Both my boys are veggie. Now they eat some fish but for the first five years James was entirely veggie and he's a good height and weight and is perfectly healthy. It won't harm him if it's done half right.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

he can eat meat when he's not at home, or buy his own meat

Ditto.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

... I also eat pork pies and don't care if they are made of lips and other nasty bits of the pig. Meat is meat.

Holland and Barrett do meatless 'pork' pies, which are okay.

As a child my grandma used to feed us slices of pork pie, we used to have a picnic style lunch sometimes, which I have fond memories of.

But as I no longer eat pork or ham (and haven't done for about 17 years now), I occasionally buy a fake no 'pork' pie from Holland and Barrett, because to me it's comfort food that reminds me of my childhood and particularly reminds me of my grandma.

 

[WouldBe]

My dad's a veggie, so my mum would always cook two meals. Bit of a hassle.

Meat eaters eat veg as well. Why not cook a veggie meal for the veggie(s) and as the veg part for the meat eaters and just cook a bit of meat to go with it?

 

[gracious]

I couldn't fancy a bloke who is a vegetarian or vegan, it would put me right off.

me neither. i once quit dating a bloke who took me to a loooveeellly restaurant views over the river etc etc and sat there eating gnocchi while i tucked into a steak. not enough love of life i say.

if OP and hubbie have a deal whereby he works long hours but pays the bills, and she works short hours but does the domestic stuff, tbh if he wants meat, you should let him have it.

 

[AnnaKarpik]

Meat eaters eat veg as well. Why not cook a veggie meal for the veggie(s) and as the veg part for the meat eaters and just cook a bit of meat to go with it?

That's what I did when First Daughter would not eat meat. The meat eaters tend to get a little fat on this kind of diet though as the veggie part is sufficient but they're eating meat as well.

 

[_angel_]

not enough love of life i say.

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[mr steev]

Indeed!

 

[Poot]

me neither. i once quit dating a bloke who took me to a loooveeellly restaurant views over the river etc etc and sat there eating gnocchi while i tucked into a steak. not enough love of life i say.

if OP and hubbie have a deal whereby he works long hours but pays the bills, and she works short hours but does the domestic stuff, tbh if he wants meat, you should let him have it.

I don't see why a love of life equates to eating steak, but each to their own.

I won't buy meat because i simply can't afford good meat and ethically I can't buy meat if the animal's been kept in appalling conditions. So unless he specifically gives me a "meat budget" he's going to be eating lentils and beans I've decided.

He's notoriously "careful" with money. This will probably put him off...

 

[madzone]

I think this sort of issue can cause major problems. If my husband decided I wasn't going to eat meat I'd tell him to fuck off. If he was working the same hours as you then I'd see your point but you say he works long hours and that's the reason he doesn't do the cooking.

Hate to say it Poot but apart from agreeing with you about the ethical meat issue I think you're being a bit unreasonable

 

[Thora]

I think you're being perfectly reasonable Poot - if you are doing the buying and cooking then you choose the meals. He's a perfectly capable adult and can buy and eat his own meat if he wants to.

btw I think men claiming to be unable to cook is complete crap! How can you possibly be unable to cook? Is he 'unable' to clean and change nappies too?

 

[Thora]

I think this sort of issue can cause major problems. If my husband decided I wasn't going to eat meat I'd tell him to fuck off. If he was working the same hours as you then I'd see your point but you say he works long hours and that's the reason he doesn't do the cooking.

Hate to say it Poot but apart from agreeing with you about the ethical meat issue I think you're being a bit unreasonable

She's not saying he can't eat meat, just that she's not cooking it - what's to stop him eating meat in the canteen at work or doing the cooking at the weekend? I'm sure 5 meat free dinners a week won't do him any harm.

 

[Poot]

She's not saying he can't eat meat, just that she's not cooking it - what's to stop him eating meat in the canteen at work or doing the cooking at the weekend? I'm sure 5 meat free dinners a week won't do him any harm.

I'd cook it if he bought it. If he bought it at weekends for example, I'd cook it throughout the week. Even if he gave me the money for it (my wages pay for the shopping) If it wasn't shite meat. But I'm pretty sure he won't because he's too "careful" with money.

 

[madzone]

I think you're being perfectly reasonable Poot - if you are doing the buying and cooking then you choose the meals.

Is he doing the paying though?

He's a perfectly capable adult and can buy and eat his own meat if he wants to.

Where's the money saving in that?

btw I think men claiming to be unable to cook is complete crap! How can you possibly be unable to cook? Is he 'unable' to clean and change nappies too?

Some people genuinely find cooking hard - not just men

 

[scifisam]

I think this sort of issue can cause major problems. If my husband decided I wasn't going to eat meat I'd tell him to fuck off. If he was working the same hours as you then I'd see your point but you say he works long hours and that's the reason he doesn't do the cooking.

Hate to say it Poot but apart from agreeing with you about the ethical meat issue I think you're being a bit unreasonable

She's not saying he can never eat meat, though. It's not like every dinner has to have meat in - it's unhealthy to do so.

Gnocchi are delicious! I don't see how eating that particular yummy food indicates a lack of love of life. Course, wanting animals to be killed for your dinner isn't really a love of life, either.

I'm not having a go at meat-eaters with that - it was just a funny phrase to choose.

 

[madzone]

I'd cook it if he bought it. If he bought it at weekends for example, I'd cook it throughout the week. Even if he gave me the money for it (my wages pay for the shopping) If it wasn't shite meat. But I'm pretty sure he won't because he's too "careful" with money.

That's entirely different and reasonable.

The rest of the thread and a lot of the replies seem a lot more bombastic than that

 

[madzone]

Gnocchi are delicious!

No, they're not

I've tried really hard to like gnocchi but they're just tasteless little lumps of stodge. Which is strange because I love tofu

 

[Thora]

Is he doing the paying though?



Where's the money saving in that?



Some people genuinely find cooking hard - not just men

Poot's paying for the shopping - if he wants meat he can buy it himself out of his money!

I don't see how cooking is so difficult - I'm not talking 3 course meals, but I'm sure anyone can manage spaghetti bolognese, sausages, steak, a bacon sandwich.

 

[madzone]

I don't see how cooking is so difficult - I'm not talking 3 course meals, but I'm sure anyone can manage spaghetti bolognese, sausages, steak, a bacon sandwich.

What, because you can?

 

[Poot]

Is he doing the paying though?



Where's the money saving in that?



Some people genuinely find cooking hard - not just men

No, from my meagre wages I buy all the shopping, run the car and pay a loan back for the deposit on the house. He pays the mortgage, childcare and bills. But we don't have a joint account because he is careful and doesn't trust me. With good reason, i might add

And yes, he has no experience of cooking and no enjoyment of it either, which is fine really, because I do.

 

[WouldBe]

I don't see how cooking is so difficult - I'm not talking 3 course meals, but I'm sure anyone can manage spaghetti bolognese, sausages, steak, a bacon sandwich.

Sausage and beans, burger and beans, all day breakfast all in a tin.

 

[Thora]

What, because you can?

Maybe

I honestly don't understand what is difficult about, say, cooking some minced meat till it's brown and pouring a tin of tomatoes over it, or sticking some bacon under a grill Sure some people will have a better sense of using spices or find timings easier, be more creative or whatever - but at the basic level making food hot is not rocket science.

 

[madzone]

Maybe

I honestly don't understand what is difficult about, say, cooking some minced meat till it's brown and pouring a tin of tomatoes over it, or sticking some bacon under a grill Sure some people will have a better sense of using spices or find timings easier, be more creative or whatever - but at the basic level making food hot is not rocket science.

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