My Veggie Argument

[mr steev]

look, im really not trying to have a pop at anyone here...

But you refered to vegetarians as 'someone who doesnt have a massive love of life and ALL it has to offer' That's quite insulting to a vegetarian.

look, im really not trying to have a pop at anyone here... i just like men with a lot of gusto! and i find 'to hell with it, i like meat, im going to eat it' an attractive, sexy attitude.

Fair enough. Thankfully there are loads of women who prefer men who show a bit of thought, compassion, have beliefs they feel strongly about and the will power to act on them

 

[gracious]

who show a bit of thought, compassion, have beliefs they feel strongly about and the will power to act on them

hehe... im not going to bite. you know you are trying to extrapolate what i actually said to try to make it sound more unreasonable than it actually is.

 

[The Pious Pawn]

so poot is your real issue with meat the price more than eating dead animals ?

 

[Funky_monks]

They're 5+ yrs old now so it's more likely to be that I think. The black rocks never seemed to lay off at all before.

5+, wow! I thought that a layer wasn't worth having after its second laying season (ie 3 +) and unless you wanted them for broodies, chucking them in the pot was the way forward.

However, I havent actually been keeping chickens myself all that long, and I have had no experience with Black Rocks - I have Sussexs', speckeldys (not yet POL) and a few randy Marran x cockerels (soon to meet their demise).

 

[Funky_monks]

so poot is your real issue with meat the price more than eating dead animals ?

I think it was, originally, but then this thread got very silly.

 

[geminisnake]

I want an egg

Our chickens have laid diddly squat since august

And you're still feeding them?? I'd a cooked 'em by now. Or are they being useful in some other way?

 

[Guineveretoo]

I wouldn't willingly cook meat for a partner or family member, but I would buy it, and allow them to cook it as a supplement, or to add it as cooked meat or whatever.

I recently made two toads in the hole (or is that toad in the holes), one with meat sausages and one with vegetarian, because my father is pining after meat, so I made an exception for him. But, as a rule, I wouldn't do it for someone I lived with...

 

[madzone]

so poot is your real issue with meat the price more than eating dead animals ?

As I understand it, it's the price of ethically sourced meat in particular.

 

[madzone]

And you're still feeding them?? I'd a cooked 'em by now. Or are they being useful in some other way?

They're pretty

 

[madzone]

5+, wow! I thought that a layer wasn't worth having after its second laying season (ie 3 +) and unless you wanted them for broodies, chucking them in the pot was the way forward.

However, I havent actually been keeping chickens myself all that long, and I have had no experience with Black Rocks - I have Sussexs', speckeldys (not yet POL) and a few randy Marran x cockerels (soon to meet their demise).

Black rocks are ace At least they are until they're 5

We've got a couple of welsummer bantams, one grey maran (one just keeled over) a few black rocks and some cornish game. They're all a bit ancient and the game have a habit of falling in the goose pond and dying

 

[The Pious Pawn]

As I understand it, it's the price of ethically sourced meat in particular.

If thats the case maybe try a bit of hunting ? then you no the route of the meat you eat , and how it lived and died .

 

[madzone]

If thats the case maybe try a bit of hunting ? then you no the route of the meat you eat , and how it lived and died .

I can give people contact details of ethical farmers who will sell half pigs/cows/sheep etc in cuts for the freezer if anyone ever needs to know

 

[geminisnake]

They're pretty

I'd rather have Magpies or Light Sussexes(or Silkies, doubt they lay eggs though)

It said on one of the sites I've just visited they can lay til 14 yrs old(the BRs)!!!

 

[madzone]

I'd rather have Magpies or Light Sussexes(or Silkies, doubt they lay eggs though)

It said on one of the sites I've just visited they can lay til 14 yrs old(the BRs)!!!

Magpies??

Shoot the fuckers

 

[scifisam]

Black rocks are ace At least they are until they're 5

We've got a couple of welsummer bantams, one grey maran (one just keeled over) a few black rocks and some cornish game. They're all a bit ancient and the game have a habit of falling in the goose pond and dying

Aww, poor cornish game! The image that brings to mind - little drunken hens wandering around, then 'splash! cluckcluckclurglegurglegah.'

I'd love to have hens one day - after they'd stopped laying I'd just keep them on as pets, I think. Basically, they'd be pets that paid their way for the first few years. (But I know your situation and lifestyle are different).

 

[geminisnake]

Magpies??

Shoot the fuckers

I meant this type of magpie - Magpies are a Sussex type. Quite a large pullet, also with a lovely calm nature. They lay 220-240 brown eggs a year and have the potential for a long life. They are well feathered with white lacing around the neck which does vary a few have only small amounts whilst others are laced all over.

There are only 2/3 breeding pairs of other magpies in the whole of Angus.

 

[madzone]

I meant this type of magpie - Magpies are a Sussex type. Quite a large pullet, also with a lovely calm nature. They lay 220-240 brown eggs a year and have the potential for a long life. They are well feathered with white lacing around the neck which does vary a few have only small amounts whilst others are laced all over.

There are only 2/3 breeding pairs of other magpies in the whole of Angus.

Probably all been shot for stealing duck food

 

[Funky_monks]

I had originally intended a 50/50 Sussex/Orpington mix for my hens and a game cockerel.

However, I'm a sucker for a deal (and a tight-arse), so we ended up with the motley crew of hybrids that now populate the corner of the fishery-field.

I did, however buy one of the speckeldies cos she is pretty.

 

[madzone]

I had originally intended a 50/50 Sussex/Orpington mix for my hens and a game cockerel.

However, I'm a sucker for a deal (and a tight-arse), so we ended up with the motley crew of hybrids that now populate the corner of the fishery-field.

I did, however buy one of the speckeldies cos she is pretty.

game cockerels are notoriously infertile as they have trouble getting their large frames high enough off the ground to actually penetrate the hen Our ideal mix would be game hens and a dorking rooster but you can't get dorkings round here for love nor money

 

[ddraig]

look, im really not trying to have a pop at anyone here... i just like men with a lot of gusto! and i find 'to hell with it, i like meat, im going to eat it' an attractive, sexy attitude.

fwiw: yes i have eaten cockroaches coated with sugar on the khoa san road in bangkok, i have also eaten snails at the foot of the eiffel tower, ive caught and killed and cooked rainbow trout on a camp fire in somerset, and ive killed a chicken by wringing its neck and then eaten it... way i see it is if mother nature didnt want me to eat meat, she wouldnt have made it so damn tasty and i dont have a problem with being a carnivore (knowing fully what that entails).

i think i made it clear that this guy being veggie was only one of his 'not much love of life' symptoms... if he'd been doing a job he was passionate about or refused to spend time dwelling on the crap stuff in life, maybe i would have accepted the veggie stuff (especially if he had tried meat and just didnt like it).... he did have a really nice body afterall

oh dear! how ridiculous so just because a man eats the flesh of something dead (that he most likely didn't hunt) he's more attractive??? can you not see (or hear) how ridiculous that sounds when you read it out to yourself??
unless u admit it just comes down to bloodlust of course...

madz - u are never on the fence where animals, farming and eating meat (or not) comes into it

 

[madzone]

madz - u are never on the fence where animals, farming and eating meat (or not) comes into it

Maybe not but I've been on the fence about whether Poot should cook meat for her husband

 

[The Pious Pawn]

I can give people contact details of ethical farmers who will sell half pigs/cows/sheep etc in cuts for the freezer if anyone ever needs to know

Tastes a lot better , one of the land owners i ferret for rear a few bit each year had some lovely joints/cuts of meat , The rib roast we did was heaven . You can taste the differance in the meat of animals reared the right way and not for profit .

 

[gracious]

oh dear! how ridiculous

takes all sorts... i know some men that really like girls to be blonde and dumb.. cant understand it myself but it happens.

 

[Funky_monks]

Our ideal mix would be game hens and a dorking rooster but you can't get dorkings round here for love nor money

Aha! Kind of an inverse of that Hugh-Fearnley thing where he finds that a Dorking hen x game cock is the best tasting roasting bird?

I think my hens must have heard I was dissing their winter laying capabilities, cos I found a Sussex egg this very afternoon.

 

[madzone]

I think my hens must have heard I was dissing their winter laying capabilities, cos I found a Sussex egg this very afternoon.

Rub it in why don't you?