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What the hell are these doll wigs about?
My Fake Baby..........
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They look asleep to me not dead...either way they seem far too real...Madusa said:god, that gives me the spooks! it looks dead!
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Could put cats out of business. Very sad. 
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
Vintage Paw said:
comedy, tragedy, and commodity.
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I've just made the mistake of turning the tv on....bang goes my early night...I don't believe i'll be able to sleep after..
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trashpony said:My friends' baby was stillborn a few months ago and they sent me a photo of her taken shortly after she was born. She looks very similar to those babies. It's horrible
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I don't think i'll be looking in prams again anytime soon.moomoo said:What worries me is that there is obviously a big market for these dolls. I'll be scared to ever look in a pram again in case it turns out to be a doll. I'd probably scream in horror!
scifisam
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We were just discussing the ways these incredibly-realistic, well-made dolls could be useful: teaching about childcare in schools, teaching CPR, teaching how to put on a nappy at neonatal classes, and for movies and TV (the only occasion where the realism would be necessary, really).
But for real people to treat like real babies? God no. Anyone purchasing one should be sent for compulsory counselling. Those poor women.
But for real people to treat like real babies? God no. Anyone purchasing one should be sent for compulsory counselling. Those poor women.
George & Bill
semiotically superfluous
Jonti said:
It might provide a more sociable alternative for would-be babynappers, or it might just enable hitherto unseen levels of scary baby fetishisation.... they're all going on about how much better they are than real babies because you can choose their exact characteristics - plus there's no danger of them growing into nasty children/teenagers!
Chairman Meow
Perth, WA
Watching the programme I actually remembered a lady in the town I grew up pushing a pram with a dolly in it. She wasn't quite all there though, but I'd say this kind of thing has always happened.
What about the weirdo lady who had dozens of them - eeek!
What about the weirdo lady who had dozens of them - eeek!
Louloubelle
Well-Known Member
scifisam said:
In the US many funeral parlours have business arrangements with reborn doll artists and offer the chance to buy a reborn doll to bereaved parents who have lost a baby.
I have no idea if this is a helpful or damaging thing in terms of helping someone to grieve for the loss of their child but they are sold as a kind of substitute for counselling / therapy to very vulnerable people in the US
Well obviously I do have some thoughts on the subject and I don't think that a doll, no matter how realistic or masterfully crafted, can be a substitute for talking about loss and I worry that they might inhibit grieving through facilitating denial.
Thread about it here
http://www.mumszone.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-28188.html
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
scifisam said:
Spot on. I didn't watch this programme I would have found it far too upsetting.
Got the impression that Jeremy Kyle would seem less exploitative in comparison.
trashpony
Hag
KeyboardJockey said:
It wasn't that upsetting, more bizarre. The first woman was one who wanted children but without all the mess and inconvenience. So she bought dolls instead. The second one was a woman whose daughter had been very ill with cancer so she was the chief carer for her grandson. When the daughter recovered, she moved to NZ, taking her son with her. I got the impression the daughter was keen to move as far away as she possibly could tbh.
There were no dead babies, no mothers mourning the loss of a child.
Madusa said:I think it's a great idea!
Anything to keep these people busy and happy enough so that they dont actually procreate.
oh shit. some of them actually have their own kids.
That was my thoughts exactly!! Anything must be good if it srops them procrastinating!
What fuckin nutters (and I think that is an insult to the most deranged of species!). That woman with a perm - I HATE women like that cause some of them do have kids just for themselves to gain attention whilst they are babies but have no interest in them when they grow up once they can talk - i think many of the worlds problems are down to people who have kids just for the attention.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
trashpony said:
I would have found it a bit upsetting as I can't have children and thought it would have brought up stuff that is better repressed.
trashpony said:
Agree with you on the other comment.
LilMissHissyFit
Disturbed in a pink bra
Or waking them at night or sicking/shitting down their £300 designer baby outfits etc etcslowjoe said:
The woman who was really into her babies ( who went to america for one) mentioned all those things in a rounabout way throughout the programme.She strikes me this morning ( after having time to think on it) as someone who didnt have children of her own but who perhaps might not actually want a real one.
Little girls play with dolls in a very similar way, washing, dressing, walking them in prams, being pleased with a new dress theyve got for it...
There were many paralells with that and the way in which that lady 'cared' for her dolls.
Its challenging because adults arent 'supposed' to play with dolls, grown women are 'supposed' to have children or not, not have some doll replacement and play at being a mother which is what shes doing. I didnt think any of those women presented as wanting anyone elses real living breathing baby, nor get any vibe that they would steal one.
The woman who had the 'grandchild' reproduction seemed to have brought up that little boy through necessity or circumstance or just ( and ive experienced this myself with my MIL 'taking' my youngest for extended periods and refusing to send him home!) a Mother completely unable to let go and realise that a grandchild isnt her plaything or her second chance at parenting a child
I wondered too whether the daughter was reclaiming her child by moving so far away, chance for a new life with her child and to be mum where she hadnt been... leaving grandma childless and with no 'harry' to mother
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
I note people's comments that these dolls looked like "dead babies" ... it's actually worse than that but it took me a while to work out why. To me, they look more like not-yet-living babies, if that makes sense. They reminded me of weird bodies somehow born without any kind of "life essense" or personality/soul/call it what you will in them. Sort of like pre-living empty vessels.
It's hard to put into words. Does anyone else see what I'm trying to say?
It's hard to put into words. Does anyone else see what I'm trying to say?
