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My daughters primary school is asking for money. Is that normal?

Discussion in 'education & employment' started by ATOMIC SUPLEX, Feb 20, 2018.


    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    A couple of years ago I heard my daughters primary school was being turned into an academy. There were all sorts of shenanigans that I was not happy about (I probably should not go into here) but there seemed to be no choice.

    One year into a full academy and all art has been dropped (as far as I can tell they only do maths and english). . . . but actually I guess this is beside the point (I'm just not happy).

    Today I get a letter asking for £25 for each student as the school is low on funds. Is this sort of thing normal in the UK? I know it happens to local schools in Japan, but I have not heard of it in the UK before.
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  2. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    For anything specific or just as a general contribution?
  3. Wookey

    Wookey Playful as a pussy cat

    They wouldn't be selling the students at such a discounted price unless they were desperate, I'd pay up if I were you. But get a receipt.

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Just a general contribution.

    "as we are all aware, public funds that make up our annual school budget are never sufficient and with current spending cuts, our budgets are under further pressure"
  5. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    Blimey. Well, I act surprised, but I'm not.
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    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    So it's not normal?
  7. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    It's becoming increasingly normal it seems.
  8. aqua

    aqua made of cheese and gin

    this, and ultimately academies seemingly can get away with whatever they want
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  9. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    That, and I suppose over-worked and under-paid teachers get fed up paying for "extras" like crayons and pencils and whatnot.
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  10. souljacker

    souljacker and this is fresh

    Do you have to actually pay or is it a suggested donation? I don't think legally they can force you to pay. They can't turn your daughter away at the gates.

    A school local to me did the same and I know the head. She did it out of desperation as they had no idea how they would balance the budgets without help from the parents.
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  11. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    I'd want to know a bit more about what that money would be buying before handing any over.

    What happens to the parents who can't afford to pay it?
  12. scifisam

    scifisam feck! arse! girls! drink!

    In the US it's completely normal (and much lower than they're usually asked to pay), which means it's going to get more widespread here too.
  13. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    I remember plenty of fund raising events to help support the primary (CofE) school I went to, and plenty of parents gave their time and occasional donations. Rummage sales, sponsored walks etc... it was all about raising extra money for the school to buy new materials and stuff.

    I think we just live in a much more 'formalised' World now. Just keep it simple and get the cash.
  14. Thora

    Thora Differently Ethical

    My secondary school asked parents to set up monthly standing orders 20+ years.
  15. MrSki

    MrSki Who am I to say you're wrong

    It used to be milk bottle tops or old newspapers. Now it is like Magpie & they just ask for your cash. :(
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  16. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    Tell them to fuck right off. If they weren't paying their head teachers so much they'd have more in their budget for the job they're supposed to be doing, teaching the kids

    Academy fucking cunts.

    That is all.:thumbs:
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  17. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    How much do they get paid these days?
  18. Fez909

    Fez909 toilet expert

    Over £100k a year.

    Some of the highest paid heads get more than £200k a year.
  19. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

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  20. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

  21. Fez909

    Fez909 toilet expert

    Average primary school = 225 pupils. £25 donation per pupil = £5.6k
  22. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    That is just not on.

    Tell the kids to strike. And, Atomic; you go piss in a bottle and hand it over to the head with a red ribbon tied around the neck.

    Wept! What the fuck is going on?
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  23. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    I don't mind chucking in through the school PTA as that actually serves to engage more parents with school activities but these cuntz just want your money and you to not get involved with "Their business".

    It's the gradual start of privatisation.

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    It's interesting wording. It at no point says it is voluntary. It says it knows some family budgets are tight so that are only asking for £25 if you have two kids at the school (£15 for one - I read it wrong the first time). The closest it gets to being voluntary is "The generosity of your contribution is greatly received".

    I have a tear away form, and I need to write my daughters name on the back of the cheque, so they are obviously keeping a record.
  25. joustmaster

    joustmaster offcumdun

    its 2018
  26. souljacker

    souljacker and this is fresh

    They can't insist you pay. If you don't want to, don't bother. IIRC your kid is a very similar age to mine so she's either in year 6 or 5. If she's in year 5, then that's only a year of avoiding the letters. If she's in year 6, then it's only a few months. Fuck em.
  27. Wookey

    Wookey Playful as a pussy cat

    Mmm, so the plop thickens....are you sure it's from the school? Does it have a Nigerian postmark?

    I think the discount for two kids is a bit stingy, they could at least have offered a BOGOF! :hmm: I'm in reality very sorry for whoever has to prostrate themselves like this. It's not nice for anyone involved, without having at least a tombola to cover up the shame and guilt.
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  28. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    If you disagree don't send one. simple.
  29. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    Fuck them, throw it in the bin. I get emails from my daughter's school quite frequently suggesting that a donation of $1,000 - $1,500 would be "appropriate" and she hasn't even started there yet.

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Meh, the principals name is on the letter and shes leaving in a week or two with nobody to replace her so I doubt she's all that bothered.

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