DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I'm selling my labour not my integrity. Sorry but principles that get left at the door of your workplace clearly aren't held with much conviction. Professionalism be damned sir
My co-worker has just had to deal with some right-wing c=nt on the phone
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I'm selling my labour not my integrity. Sorry but principles that get left at the door of your workplace clearly aren't held with much conviction. Professionalism be damned sir
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Precious behaviour IMV - it's not selling your integrity at all FFS. Ludicrous overstatement of the situation.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Welltheres some people that when you say 'wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire' and actually mean it about. my statement was wrt your hospital analogy.
Augie March
blahem
I think that if you have principles that come into conflict with your occupation, then you should stick by your principles. Obviously that isn't the same with all types of jobs, but in mine, I can refuse to help him and he'll still no doubt get the service he requires from another person. He won't die, he won't lose out in anyway, hell, he probably won't even notice. Life will go on for him as normal but I'll feel just a little better for not helping this sorry fool, than I would've done if I had.
I hope you enjoy dole money cos thats where you are heading.
Its pointless making stands about bollocks issues like this. Make a stand about something important but not this shit. Its not worth it.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
make a stand? naw make an excuse. A good one. The third way
Anyway as a cleaner it's unlikely anything like that would come up. Good job I don't aspire to be rich.
mattie
missing in inaction
DC, I think it's reasonable to refuse to be complicit in any questionable behaviour, but to refuse to interact per se is much more difficult to defend.
If the OP was saying that they had been asked to insure a car that would be used for BNP business they could in all decency refuse, but not if it's a private car for a given person who may hold objectionable views. In one case they'd be (however tangentially) complicit in BNP activities, which they should be able to refuse to be involved in, whereas for the other case they'd simply be abusing their position to hamper somebody whom they find objectionable.
It's not a case of leaving principles at the door - in fact I'd argue that imposing my own beliefs upon a broader collective (i.e. the company I work for) is unreasonable behaviour. I can refuse to be involved in behaviour I find immoral, I cannot in all decency refuse to execute my duties because I find the customer abhorrent.
I would suggest such actions would be the first steps onto a very slippery slope.
If the OP was saying that they had been asked to insure a car that would be used for BNP business they could in all decency refuse, but not if it's a private car for a given person who may hold objectionable views. In one case they'd be (however tangentially) complicit in BNP activities, which they should be able to refuse to be involved in, whereas for the other case they'd simply be abusing their position to hamper somebody whom they find objectionable.
It's not a case of leaving principles at the door - in fact I'd argue that imposing my own beliefs upon a broader collective (i.e. the company I work for) is unreasonable behaviour. I can refuse to be involved in behaviour I find immoral, I cannot in all decency refuse to execute my duties because I find the customer abhorrent.
I would suggest such actions would be the first steps onto a very slippery slope.
AndrewNumLock
Well-Known Member
Yeah, come on! Tell us! The Sun aren't exactly going to be interested that this person (whoever, however famous) is getting out some insurance!
WouldBe
Dislicksick
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
There's always the opportunity to get stuff to pass to the papers.
Which would of course be highly unprofessional.
Which would of course be highly unprofessional.
Don't see why he should name names if it could in some way be traced to him. Doubt his employers would be happy about him discussing customers' details in public.
Treat them the same as anyone else who irritates you at work. You play the whole thing exactly by the book and don't do them any favours or go an inch further than your job requires you to. You'd be surprised how much satisfaction this can give you and no reason for your employers to take exception.
Treat them the same as anyone else who irritates you at work. You play the whole thing exactly by the book and don't do them any favours or go an inch further than your job requires you to. You'd be surprised how much satisfaction this can give you and no reason for your employers to take exception.
Dhimmi
Half Man Half HobNob
And it would be a dreadful thing to happen, just as well it will never happen.
I reckon it's Galloway myself...
exosculate
a stagger with a beat
Is it KILROY?
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Was it Hitler?
Close - it was actually John Howard
Damn. FP beat me to it. the word is professionalism. it doesn't matter whether you like the fuckwad, you just do the job as professionally as possible because that is what you are expected to do (I wish a few politicos of all persuasions would do this, it would save us a lot of grief).
It's the internet - you don't have any control over it
This.
Part of free speech is hearing views and opinions you don't agree with. That's the beauty of it. I wouldn't want to live in a uniform opinion world.
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
Deal with the person in a professional manner then.. lose/mis-file/bin/delete all the paper work relating to this person..
Augie March
blahem
But I'm not asking that anyone should live in that kind of world.
Of course the man is entitled to his moronic views, that is a free democratic society. But then I'm just as much entitled to tell him to take his views and shove them up his rear-end.
Augie March
blahem
Btw there is no chance of me revealing his name. I don't exactly like my job, but I do kinda need it to live. 
stupid kid
...
Start the call as normal, then mid sentence without changing tone, tell him what you think of him. Then pack your stuff up, it'll prolly be worth it.
ETA: Oh, just read your last post, oh wells.
I don't think you are. You're paid to toe the company line aren't you and to abide by company rules which I'm fairly sure would prohibit taking customers or potental customers to task about their politics. I have to deal with people who will openly express racist sentiment to me whilst we sit about for hours at court but I deal with it by just mmmmhmmmming them to death till they fucking shut up. I'm not endorsing their views but, then again, who the hell am I to take them to task anyway? Life would be a fucking nightmare if you couldn't even pop to the shop for some milk without having to defend your politics to the shopkeeper. In any event, personality and politics don't always reflect the same person.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Btw there is no chance of me revealing his name. I don't exactly like my job, but I do kinda need it to live.
So its Hitler then?
Augie March
blahem
A nice, polite racist is still a racist though.
Look, my plan is not to start dissecting his political views bit by bit, if I do speak to him. I'll probably take the line already mentioned in this thread and take the call with minimum effort. Nor do I wish to know every single customers political viewpoints, I only happened to recogonise this name and googled it out of curiousty. The point is, once you know, how easy is it just to ignore any negative connotations you might associate with that person. This is the first time I've come across such a situation in my job and I guess I'm not very good at being able to do this.
Augie March
blahem
Ok, you broke me, it's him alright. He's been trying to insure his remaining testicle.
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