Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

Muslim Leader Abducted at Knifepoint

From the BBC:

''A Muslim community leader who claimed he was abducted and told to stop prayer meetings in Essex has been charged with perverting the course of justice.

Noor Ramjanally, 36, of Loughton, Essex, has been charged by police on advice from the CPS.

Mr Ramjanally told officers in August that he had been bundled into a car at knife-point by two white men.

He also claimed he was the victim of a terror campaign which involved threats against his family.

Mr Ramjanally has been released on police bail and is due before magistrates in Harlow on 16 September. ''

Clay Davis/Lee Jasper/Kumar Murshid type takes guillible racist liberals by suprise shock!!!!
 
Clay Davis/Lee Jasper/Kumar Murshid type takes guillible racist liberals by suprise shock!!!!

Yeah. Look. Everyone was up in arms about it. Look how gullible everyone was!

Alternatively, "post-racism fake lefties crow about how muslims are bad because somebody makes some shit up". Who needs the Mail eh?
 
Yeah. Look. Everyone was up in arms about it. Look how gullible everyone was!

Alternatively, "post-racism fake lefties crow about how muslims are bad because somebody makes some shit up". Who needs the Mail eh?

crikey you really seem to be losing the plot. "Who needs the Mail eh?" Was that supposed to shoot me down in flames or something?
 
crikey you really seem to be losing the plot. "Who needs the Mail eh?" Was that supposed to shoot me down in flames or something?

Can't shoot a non-existent point down, I admit. You imply "guillible racist liberals" were taken "by suprise", only they weren't. So, eh.
 
Can't shoot a non-existent point down, I admit. You imply "guillible racist liberals" were taken "by suprise", only they weren't. So, eh.

Are you 100% sure?
Your view seems to be contradicted by the report.

Might be too early to say but looks like another Kumar Murshid/Clay Davis/ Lee Jasper type to me but maybe thats because i secretly love the daily mail and want to invent a time machine so that i can go and live in nazi germany.
 
Oh dear:

''A Muslim community leader who claimed he had been kidnapped at knifepoint after a BNP hate campaign has been arrested on suspicion of perverting the course of justice.''

Is the latest SWP paper carrying the story of this man who says he was kidnapped at knife point:D

A child could see this story was bullshit, but the SWP could not.

Yes they are, indexed on the front page and a 2/3 page "scoop" from Esme Choonara on page 4. Used as a lovely oh so not clunky segway into a concise history of Kristallnacht, ended with the usual get involved with UAF bit. Yay! Radical journalism at its finest.
 
Are you 100% sure?
Your view seems to be contradicted by the report.

Might be too early to say but looks like another Kumar Murshid/Clay Davis/ Lee Jasper type to me but maybe thats because i secretly love the daily mail and want to invent a time machine so that i can go and live in nazi germany.

In what way does my "view" seem to be contradicted? Looking forward to that one.
 
Meanwhile, in the real world, and getting far less media coverage ...

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand.../Mosque+fear+over+pensioner+attack/article.do

:(

(It's the same situation as with rape - little or now coverage / outrage over real attacks, massive hype with a distinct nudge, nudge, wink, wink suggesting "they're all bollocks" over the occasional false allegation ...)

Self-serving grandstanding self-appointed 'community leader' goes too far with self-serving hate-fuelling bollocks; meanwhile, ordinary people get hurt in loathsome politically-motivated racist attack whipped up by the grandstanding extremist posturing of said political types who do little to seek common ground with their damaging identity politics careerism (that goes for religious and racial identity politics).

'Community' politics should be about the community ie. the people of the neighbourhood , not about divisively 'representing' certain segments of the community whilst jostling for power and influence and grants and prestige.

This is where all this crap gets you: anger rising, suspicion and resentment, people getting hurt. :(
 
Self-serving grandstanding self-appointed 'community leader' goes too far with self-serving hate-fuelling bollocks; meanwhile, ordinary people get hurt in loathsome politically-motivated racist attack whipped up by the grandstanding extremist posturing of said political types who do little to seek common ground with their damaging identity politics careerism (that goes for religious and racial identity politics).

'Community' politics should be about the community ie. the people of the neighbourhood , not about divisively 'representing' certain segments of the community whilst jostling for power and influence and grants and prestige.

This is where all this crap gets you: anger rising, suspicion and resentment, people getting hurt. :(

Post of the day TBH. :cool:
 
Ignoring the BNP angle for a moment the most interesting aspect willundoubtedly be the mobilisation of the 'Muslim Community' in support of their fellow member, and the difficulties this will undoubtedly present to the Police in their attempts at 'community engagement' and their 'Prevent' strategy. It is Ramadan after all........
 
Manningham man shouted racial abuse before attack

9:03am Thursday 20th August 2009
By Steve Wright »

A teenager who stabbed and slashed a passer-by in a racially motivated attack has been locked up for five years.

Amir Rehman, 18, shouted racial abuse as 51-year-old Ronald O’Connor walked to a shop for a loaf of bread, near the gates of Lister Park, Manning-ham, last December.

Leeds Crown Court was told Rehman shouted out: “Manningham belongs to Muslims. We don’t want whites. We rule Bradford. We are going to get you out.”

His frightened victim, Ronald O’Connor, tried to get in the shop, but Rehman ran up and stabbed him twice in the upper

Some Muslim youth seem to think they are in control of certain areas, its clear that some of them have 'issues' or maybe they are like some of the left described the Broadwater Farm riots , 'leading the uprising'...
 
Some Muslim youth seem to think they are in control of certain areas, its clear that some of them have 'issues' or maybe they are like some of the left described the Broadwater Farm riots , 'leading the uprising'...

The "no go area" tales are not new.

No go areas for beered-up hooligans, abusing and fighting I sympathise with.
 
do you comdemn this idiot and his cohorts actions?

Which idiot?

Edit: Oh, I see you've added a news report. Where's it from?

The idiot got five years.

My brother was attacked by Asians with baseball bats and I've been called a white cunt and threatened, so I don't need any moral lessons from the likes of you thanks.
 
In what way does my "view" seem to be contradicted? Looking forward to that one.

After the alleged arson attack, high-profile community figures, including Loughton Mayor Ken Angold-Stephens, religious leaders, teachers and members of the police attended the hall where he holds prayer sessions in a show of support.

From the report Fm.
 
After the alleged arson attack, high-profile community figures, including Loughton Mayor Ken Angold-Stephens, religious leaders, teachers and members of the police attended the hall where he holds prayer sessions in a show of support.

From the report Fm.

Beacause they wanted to or because they felt they had to?
 
Bit of both id guess.

Either way it looks like they may all have been taken for a ride.

If that proves to be the case the question is how it is likely to be resolved. You can bet that there has been community mobilisation to apply pressure to see that a prosecution (if appropriate) does not go ahead. This will no doubt be complicated, as I indicated earlier, by local concerns regarding possible radicalisation in the borough (real or imagined).
 
BNP can't organise a christmas piss up let alone a kidnap attempt:D
but wannabe race leaders will only make things worse:(
 
My brother was attacked by Asians with baseball bats and I've been called a white cunt and threatened, so I don't need any moral lessons from the likes of you thanks.
Last edited by MC5; 06-09-2009 at 14:20.


i am very sorry to hear that, a gang did similar things in my neighbourhood, the thing is though, the media never covered it all and there wasn't the usual call out from the Left, etc, etc you get when BEM's are attacked in such ways.

Why?
 
Blimey, what an idiot. Not going to do race-relations any good. Having had plenty of experience of Loughton's racists over the years (including, interestingly, a friend of mine who was bundled into a van and driven into the forest for a kicking by some racists), I believed this story. No reason not to. Unlike certain people on this thread, who no matter what they claim, really just didn't believe him because he was a Muslim.
 
Blimey, what an idiot. Not going to do race-relations any good. Having had plenty of experience of Loughton's racists over the years (including, interestingly, a friend of mine who was bundled into a van and driven into the forest for a kicking by some racists), I believed this story. No reason not to. Unlike certain people on this thread, who no matter what they claim, really just didn't believe him because he was a Muslim.

Who do you think on this thread didnt believe him cos he was a muslim?
 
Blimey, what an idiot. Not going to do race-relations any good. Having had plenty of experience of Loughton's racists over the years (including, interestingly, a friend of mine who was bundled into a van and driven into the forest for a kicking by some racists), I believed this story. No reason not to. Unlike certain people on this thread, who no matter what they claim, really just didn't believe him because he was a Muslim.

I think it might have been the way BNP were more or less accused by the original article/victim based on nothing but supposition.
 
Back
Top Bottom